Trump Fan? yay or nay?

[Ping]

Trump can say what he wants with all the explenatives in a bar room. If he wants to represent the United States then he needs to present himself as a leader. Acting like a jackass is going to help Obama get re-elected.

[Timothy]

Like him or not, he was the butt of more than one joke last night at the WH Correspondents dinner.  The WH resident joke writer made him look and sound like a fool, almost as bad as the fool (Obama) who was reading it all off his favorite teleprompter.

Trumps a douche-bag which doesn't necessarily disqualify him from running for office.  Remember, he was a Republican BEFORE he was a Democrat BEFORE he switched back to the Reform party and now back on the Republican side.  Whatever way the wind blows with this guy.

Douche-bag....

[Herknav]

Whoa, Nellie! Whoa, Nellie!

Sorry, I got carried away.    When folks mention Perot, the next two sentences are usually, "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!  He stole the election from Bush and gave us Clinton."  Please forgive me for arse-uming you were headed there.

You're absolutely right about the populist tone.  Reagan got that tone right, too.  (No, I'm not a Reagan worshipper.)

Ping--I'll disagree with you and say, "I don't want a leader.  I want somebody who will represent the American people and serve the country.  I'm tired of having somebody--regardless of party--who thinks he's smarter than we are trying to lead us (for our own good, of course)."  

[tombogan03884]

Herk Nav is wrong about the leadership thing. Surprising from a military person too, he should know better.
The presidents only job is to lead the Government

[Solus]

The officers or NCO's I under whom I served and respected and considered leaders gained the respect and loyalty of their troops because the troops knew that they, the troops, mattered to the Leaders.

Yeah..sometimes the hill has to be taken and it will cost a lot of lives, but troops know a real Leader won't waste them and will do his utmost to ensure they are not sacrificed needlessly.

No, I do not want a politician who will vote as his constituents want him to.  That is how we get folks on the dole voting in those who will keep the payments coming.

I want a Leader who make the tough calls, not always the most popular ones, but ones based on principle and the oath they took to uphold the Constitution of the United States.

Get rid of the ones who have no character and go for the popular vote just because it's popular, not right.

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[Badgersmilk]

Trump has the sack to speak his mind.  I'm just surprised he hasn't been arrested yet for doing it!

[tombogan03884]

Reagan said it best, "You can't cure cancer with band aides".
We have not yet had, and desperately need, a LEADER, who can force through the hard decisions that will make us all feel the pain, but will actually go toward solving the problems of debt, unemployment, and a totally unsecured border.
But YOU, the voters would never allow it.

That's why NCO's and Officers are not elected.

[Herknav]

Herk Nav is wrong about the leadership thing. Surprising from a military person too, he should know better.
The presidents only job is to lead the Government

Actually, he leads one branch of the federal government.  When I hear somebody say they want a leader, I hear them saying they want to be led.  I don't need to be led anywhere.  I (the taxpayer) am hiring somebody to take care of our nation's business.  Yes, Solus, that means being able to make hard decisions.  I not only can accept that--I expect it.

You guys seem to think I want something from the federal government and that I will treat it as an ATM or that I will treat the President as a fairy godmother.  All I want is to be left alone and for them to not run the country into the ditch.

Tom--you mention that you want the President to solve the immigration problem, the debt, and unemployment.  The President has no direct control (besides veto power) of any of these.  Yes, he can call for action, but unless Congress and the Judiciary and work with him, then he's just thinking out loud.

One man alone will not solve our problems.  I believe some folks tried that in '08.  We, as a nation, are going to have to be the ones to clean this up.  In order to do that, we have to come to an agreement on how to handle the issues.

[Solus]

Actually, he leads one branch of the federal government.  When I hear somebody say they want a leader, I hear them saying they want to be led.  I don't need to be led anywhere.  I (the taxpayer) am hiring somebody to take care of our nation's business.  Yes, Solus, that means being able to make hard decisions.  I not only can accept that--I expect it.

You guys seem to think I want something from the federal government and that I will treat it as an ATM or that I will treat the President as a fairy godmother.  All I want is to be left alone and for them to not run the country into the ditch.

Tom--you mention that you want the President to solve the immigration problem, the debt, and unemployment.  The President has no direct control (besides veto power) of any of these.  Yes, he can call for action, but unless Congress and the Judiciary and work with him, then he's just thinking out loud.

One man alone will not solve our problems.  I believe some folks tried that in '08.  We, as a nation, are going to have to be the ones to clean this up.  In order to do that, we have to come to an agreement on how to handle the issues.

Herk,  my statement wasn't to imply that you wanted handouts from the government, just to point out that the type of office holder you described was the type who would respond to folks who did want the handout and who would always be asking for more.

And I agree about the government leaving us alone.  The more the leave us and most all other aspects of American life alone, the less they do, they less cash they need to do it and the less they will be driving into that ditch.

[tombogan03884]

Herk Nav, you must be to young to remember LBJ. A lot of things that JFK could not get through, LBJ did, with the same congress, by arm twisting and USING the influence of his office.
I do indeed want something from the Govt. I want those commie elitist bastards to quit their "social engineering" and do their f....king job.