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Re: 9mm carry ammo
« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2011, 10:50:48 AM »
Quote from: Badgersmilk on July 23, 2011, 09:13:43 PM
WOW twyacht...  I can't even begin to tell you how bad a place that is to go with this crowd.  According to this entire board .22 wouldn't suffice to kill a mosquito on the end of the barrel!  Weren't you here for all that?  :o :o :o


If you take into consideration that the main reason the .22 is a "top killer" is just simply a matter of overwhelming numbers, ie: there are just plainly more of them in peoples possession than any other caliber.......so statistics would warrant that more folks are shot by them, and therefore killed by them.

I still wouldn't make the .22 my top choice as a SD round.
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Re: 9mm carry ammo
« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2011, 02:22:16 PM »
And, I'd figure that most of the deaths by .22 rimfire are from a rifle, not a pee shooter such as that little Beretta...BIG difference!
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Re: 9mm carry ammo
« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2011, 02:37:09 PM »
FYI, Michael covers this in a recent blog: http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/07/power.html
He references this article: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7866 which actually covers how some of the data is "selected" for inclusion in the studies.

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

I tend to fall into the "any good "dum dum" round and hit something vital" camp. 
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Re: 9mm carry ammo
« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2011, 05:46:58 PM »
I was watching one of the shows on Wednesday Night On The Range, and someone quoted someone (I don't remember #1 and they couldn't remember #2) and I paraphrase:

While your wondering if your 9mm bullet will expand, I know my .45 will not shrink.
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Re: 9mm carry ammo
« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2011, 06:47:08 PM »
Quote from: m58 on July 24, 2011, 05:46:58 PM
While your wondering if your 9mm bullet will expand, I know my .45 will not shrink.

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Re: 9mm carry ammo
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Re: 9mm carry ammo
« Reply #45 on: July 24, 2011, 11:12:42 PM »
Quote from: m58 on July 24, 2011, 05:46:58 PM

While your wondering if your 9mm bullet will expand, I know my .45 will not shrink.

Then again.....I've never met anyone who was OK with having ONE .355" hole in their chest....much less multiple ones....
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Re: 9mm carry ammo
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2011, 04:23:34 PM »
Quote from: seeker_two on July 24, 2011, 11:12:42 PM
Then again.....I've never met anyone who was OK with having ONE .355" hole in their chest....much less multiple ones....

I can say the same about the .45.  However, I can say that I have talked to people that have had .22 and several #6 and #4 holes.
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Re: 9mm carry ammo
« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2011, 05:32:36 PM »


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Re: 9mm carry ammo
« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2011, 10:16:54 PM »
And there's this old poster.
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Re: 9mm carry ammo
« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2011, 11:55:07 PM »
Quote from: twyacht on July 23, 2011, 06:19:11 PM
The age old question:

"If a bullet expands and penetrates 6" and another bullet does not expand, but penetrates 12", which one does more damage?"

Availability [You have to have it with you.]
Reliability [It has to 'go bang.']
Penetration [It has to reach important bits.]
Placement [You have to hit important bits.]

Guess which rd. has ended the lives of the most people? Not in combat, or at war?

Times up.....

The .22. Closely followed by the .25 and .38

2 comments, First, availability/affordability have more to do with those numbers than suitability.
Second, this is comparing apples and oranges, the objective in SD is to STOP THE ATTACKER, in other words it is more effective if he runs away screaming like a girl than if he bleeds out 10 minutes after beating you to death.
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