Author Topic: More jihad on our shores from the Religion of "Peace"  (Read 5054 times)

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Re: More jihad on our shores from the Religion of "Peace"
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2011, 07:02:07 PM »
I'm with Peg here.
I thought of Ft Hood , among other"non terror related" acts of violence by US Muslims when I was posting, but I'm also aware of how willing the Marines are to "Good of the Service" discharges. Col "Red Mike" Edson nearly got one before WWII.
Because of the way he was pushing Mao's tactics of unconventional warfare it was thought he might have gone a little "pink". Even though his tactical theories were born out by his and Carlson's Raider Battalions, and the Recon Battalions that evolved from them the suspicion of him persisted. One Butler was enough.
What is more likely is that the cops stumbled into a "security exercise", where one man, or a group, often Recon guys , attempt to penetrate security . I was involved in one of these in Naples back in the 70's when Navy Seals attempted to penetrate the security of my ship.
Then of course with "unnamed sources", and half assed information, the local media tries to fill a slow news cycle.

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Re: More jihad on our shores from the Religion of "Peace"
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2011, 08:03:13 PM »

Then of course with "unnamed sources", and half assed information, the local media tries to fill a slow news cycle.


And therein lies the problem.  24-hour, all-news outlets with nothing but time to fill, and tons of competition.  It causes a race to get it first, whether or not they get it right.
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Re: More jihad on our shores from the Religion of "Peace"
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2011, 08:34:23 PM »

And therein lies the problem.  24-hour, all-news outlets with nothing but time to fill, and tons of competition.  It causes a race to get it first, whether or not they get it right.
Bingo! How about the prize goes to "I got it right", rather than "I got it first"?
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Re: More jihad on our shores from the Religion of "Peace"
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2011, 09:15:38 PM »
Saw it starting way back some years ago.

I used to call it the "Huntley-Brinkley Syndrome"  when reporting and the personalities doing it became more important than the news itself.

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Re: More jihad on our shores from the Religion of "Peace"
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2011, 09:57:38 PM »
Before you go all medieval on Muslims and question their loyalty, remember the anti-Catholic bias in in the UK and the colonies. There was a real fear that you couldn't be a good Catholic and a good American. That persisted until JFK in 1960. Hell, Mitt Romney is dealing with it (in terms of Mormonism) today. ::)
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Re: More jihad on our shores from the Religion of "Peace"
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Re: More jihad on our shores from the Religion of "Peace"
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2011, 10:19:39 PM »
Before you go all medieval on Muslims and question their loyalty, remember the anti-Catholic bias in in the UK and the colonies. There was a real fear that you couldn't be a good Catholic and a good American. That persisted until JFK in 1960. Hell, Mitt Romney is dealing with it (in terms of Mormonism) today. ::)
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Oh, my, you really are a huge f..king tool.

This is not some vague worry about JFK putting the Pope ahead of this country (I personally remember hearing that slander). This is about a group of people who have wished us dead because we exist, and have acted repeatedly on that wish. All mooslims? I'd say no, but the koran says otherwise. Do all have the strength or desire to act on the koran? Again, I'd say no.

But - and this is the money quote - the majority does nothing to stop the minority that does act on the wish to destroy us and others like us - who are not like them. As long as that continues, you need to be damn careful about what positions of authority, power and control you allow them to hold. If you turn a blind "tolerant"  eye to this fact, you deserve whatever hits you.
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Re: More jihad on our shores from the Religion of "Peace"
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2011, 12:13:45 AM »
Hold on Path, you are wrong to dump on FQ this time. While the fears about Kennedy were unfounded they were lingering remnants of a very real threat to protestants by the Catholic church and every bit as much intrigue and violence as we see now from muslims.

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Re: More jihad on our shores from the Religion of "Peace"
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2011, 12:23:28 AM »
Oh, my, you really are a huge f..king tool.

This is not some vague worry about JFK putting the Pope ahead of this country (I personally remember hearing that slander). This is about a group of people who have wished us dead because we exist, and have acted repeatedly on that wish. All mooslims? I'd say no, but the koran says otherwise. Do all have the strength or desire to act on the koran? Again, I'd say no.

But - and this is the money quote - the majority does nothing to stop the minority that does act on the wish to destroy us and others like us - who are not like them. As long as that continues, you need to be damn careful about what positions of authority, power and control you allow them to hold. If you turn a blind "tolerant"  eye to this fact, you deserve whatever hits you.

Quick question Path. I'm a born again Christian (in the theological, not political sense). I came to God when I was 25. How much do I have to doto  distance myself from Randall Terry and other "pro-life" extremists? What sort of statements should I make? How do I distance myself from the Westboro Baptist Church? Just asking.
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Re: More jihad on our shores from the Religion of "Peace"
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2011, 12:32:19 AM »
Quick question Path. I'm a born again Christian (in the theological, not political sense). I came to God when I was 25. How much do I have to doto  distance myself from Randall Terry and other "pro-life" extremists? What sort of statements should I make? How do I distance myself from the Westboro Baptist Church? Just asking.
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You should have quit while I was defending your opinion. You said the one more thing that turned it stupid.
How hard is it to say suicide bombings are bad ? How hard is it to say that you shouldn't fly an airliner into a skyscraper , or blow up airliners in flight ?
But they don't do that, they dance in the streets, and they celebrate the perpetrators as "hero's".

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Re: More jihad on our shores from the Religion of "Peace"
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2011, 12:45:27 AM »
You should have quit while I was defending your opinion. You said the one more thing that turned it stupid.
How hard is it to say suicide bombings are bad ? How hard is it to say that you shouldn't fly an airliner into a skyscraper , or blow up airliners in flight ?
But they don't do that, they dance in the streets, and they celebrate the perpetrators as "hero's".
Its a practical question Tom. Yeah, I could have stayed quiet and scored a point against Path and Rastus. But that's not what this is about. I have a certain belief. Others claim to have the same and use it to do violence in the street blowing up clinics, and to push a political agenda that I despise because it institutes the nanny state. What should I do? Do I say they don't love God as much as I do? Do I call them pharisees? Or do I just tell them I think they are wrong and and let it go? If its not easy for an Episcopalian, I doubt its easy for a reasonable  Muslim. This is the reason religion and politics shouldn't mix. Jesus had it right, render to Ceasar what is Ceasar's and to God what is God's.

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