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How to defend yourself if caught up in a flash mob that cannot be avoided.

Mob, what mob...huh...why are you..uggh
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Look guys, we have some common ground here be cool and let's talk.
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There is no such thing as a flash mob.
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Well, you can't defend yourself, not really, you will be sued.
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Do whatever it takes.
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tombogan03884

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Re: FLASH MOB DEFENSE
« Reply #70 on: December 30, 2011, 06:55:34 PM »
Pepper Spray= oleo resin capsicum
oleo = margarin,greasy
Resin = sticky,gooey
capsicum = the heart of pepper makes the heat,Made by nature,all natural
 So it is not a chemical weapon
Effects=Swells mucus membrane,uncontrollable gagging/coughing,Gasping for breath,Intense burning,eyes slam shut,Inability to catch breath

Geneva conventions classify Tearing agents as chemical weapons origin of the components is not relevant.
The nerve agent Ricin is also of organic derivatives.

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Re: FLASH MOB DEFENSE
« Reply #71 on: December 31, 2011, 11:28:47 AM »
Tom, if you can prove that you went to a less than lethal option before using deadly force it will look a lot better for you in court.

Not to be contentious, but that could be in New York.  However, for me what happens in court is secondary.  I am into risk avoidance (especially with the life of my family or myself) so my default is firmly below:

Not my problem.
My problem is surviving what I reasonably feel is a life threatening situation.
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Avoidance is my preferred course of action.

I have just watched the initial Best Defense programming which was on flash mobs.  I especially agree that, ignoring any legal considerations, being kicked on the ground with boots is a lethal threat.  I also did not know about The Doghouse at the edge of downtown Tulsa...I suspect I'll patronize them this week.
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Re: FLASH MOB DEFENSE
« Reply #72 on: December 31, 2011, 12:42:11 PM »
Avoidance is my preferred course of action.

I have just watched the initial Best Defense programming which was on flash mobs.  I especially agree that, ignoring any legal considerations, being kicked on the ground with boots is a lethal threat.  I also did not know about The Doghouse at the edge of downtown Tulsa...I suspect I'll patronize them this week.

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Re: FLASH MOB DEFENSE
« Reply #73 on: December 31, 2011, 03:15:14 PM »
Great thought provoking episode !
Avoidance and awareness is key.
If you let them get too close as to be hitting you, they might get your gun or guns away from you.
It could happen to the best of us.
So, avoid ,be aware of what's going on around you at all times.
Distance is your friend.
Once in a CQB situation, proper weapons retention and engagement becomes paramount.

Great show Huh ?        
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Re: FLASH MOB DEFENSE
« Reply #74 on: December 31, 2011, 08:58:39 PM »
Danger, Will Robinson - Danger!!!   ;)

I suspect the greatest danger will be bustin' this diet I've been on for a couple of weeks.  The Doghouse maps out just past the Home Depot and over a block so I can make it a dual trip.

Distance is indeed your friend.  Good point
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Re: FLASH MOB DEFENSE
« Reply #75 on: May 08, 2012, 10:26:07 PM »

The Flash mob scenario on The Best Defense is now available online in full version:

http://www.downrange.tv/blog/flash-mob-scenario-from-the-best-defense/14298/

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« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2012, 04:42:30 AM »
The Flash mob scenario on The Best Defense is now available online in full version:

http://www.downrange.tv/blog/flash-mob-scenario-from-the-best-defense/14298/


very cool  ta for getting that online :)
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