Why you SHOULD cheat on your taxs

[TAB]

What year are you looking at?  Construction has had its tit in the wringer - and losing - for several years.

Some parts have, others are booming.


You would be amazed at the number of people had "hands on" in the construction of your home.  Its in the many thousands, thats just people that litterly touched something related to your home.  Rahter its raw goods, manufactoring or the actuall construction.

[fightingquaker13]

Timothy and others
That 10-25% is on TOP of your state sales tax, unless your state magically develops another way of raising money. And yes Virgina, it does apply to services, and housing as well. Add an extra 30% (including state, local and federal sales taxes) to hiring everyone from a plumber to a doctor (closely related professions in my case ), or for that matter throw in mechanics, roofers and restraunteurs, and what you get is just what TAB described. Its the anti small business tax. It would do to our current economy what Smoot Hawley did in the 1930s. Because Crusader, you say its deductible as COLA and comes out in the wash? Look, the money comes from somewhere. A consumption tax will, by its very nature, reduce consumption by raising prices. Guess what drives our economy, since we pissed away our manufacturing and export sectors? Its consumer spending. Funding the government via a mechanism that will decrease the very engine that drives the economy seems bone stupid to me.
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[Rastus]

Consumerism cannot survive on it's own without printing worthless money, and then, for only so long before it catches up.

Reagan was wrong to go along and push a "service based" economy; it was as plain as the nose on your face where this would lead.  Perhaps it was necessary to address the Cold War, but you can only have so many burger flippers out there.  Someone has to produce something.  During the Clinton Administration, thanks to Newt's Contract With America, the budget got "balanced" but a false belief pervaded the country....once we got this thing under control we were all going to be able to retire and sit on our asses. 

The people who make the $100+ sneakers, clothes, cars, electronics, etc. are willing to make that deal only so long.  They too want their children to be well fed, clothed and have a future.  So long as a purchaser can provide something of value greater than they can provide within, then trade will continue.  So now we see an out-of-control free spending government who keeps pushing us to the economic tipping point.  The value of the $ as a reserve currency is essential to the nation who wants others to provide the good life for them....when a currency has no real value, much more a reserve currency, then the Age of the Consumer is over. 

No matter how many people want to sit on their ass it will still take some number of people to grow, transport and sell the food, provide the electricity, fix the roads, ....heck, fix your heater and A/C.  We have too many people sitting on their ass taking who are wanting to force the worker to provide more and work harder....that's one of the results of taxation in this nation. 

When the "Age of the Consumer" comes to a climatic close it will be very easy to discern.  Then we will find the true value of a service based econnomy of office workers, burger flippers, community organizers.....etc.

[fightingquaker13]

All very true Rastus, but why hasten that day through a boneheaded tax policy? Seems to me that trying to revive our industrial sector and improving our science and technology education might be a better idea for a long term solution.
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[Badgersmilk]

Consumerism cannot survive on it's own without printing worthless money, and then, for only so long before it catches up.

Reagan was wrong to go along and push a "service based" economy; it was as plain as the nose on your face where this would lead.  Perhaps it was necessary to address the Cold War, but you can only have so many burger flippers out there.  Someone has to produce something.  During the Clinton Administration, thanks to Newt's Contract With America, the budget got "balanced" but a false belief pervaded the country....once we got this thing under control we were all going to be able to retire and sit on our asses.  

The people who make the $100+ sneakers, clothes, cars, electronics, etc. are willing to make that deal only so long.  They too want their children to be well fed, clothed and have a future.  So long as a purchaser can provide something of value greater than they can provide within, then trade will continue.  So now we see an out-of-control free spending government who keeps pushing us to the economic tipping point.  The value of the $ as a reserve currency is essential to the nation who wants others to provide the good life for them....when a currency has no real value, much more a reserve currency, then the Age of the Consumer is over.  

No matter how many people want to sit on their ass it will still take some number of people to grow, transport and sell the food, provide the electricity, fix the roads, ....heck, fix your heater and A/C.  We have too many people sitting on their ass taking who are wanting to force the worker to provide more and work harder....that's one of the results of taxation in this nation.  

When the "Age of the Consumer" comes to a climatic close it will be very easy to discern.  Then we will find the true value of a service based econnomy of office workers, burger flippers, community organizers.....etc.

I believe you cover every economic issue we've got with that statement.  Well, except that our president seems to have the same war policy as Hitler.  Their smaller than us...  ATTACK!  Difference being that Hitler had reason other than lining his personal pocket.

Thats not going to change no matter what happens.  You've seen and know these people as well as we all do...  They'll simply turn to crime if deprived of free riches before putting an honest effort toward supporting themselves in a productive society.  ANYONE care to disagree?!?

I've been under the impression the time you speak of started on inauguration day of King Obama.    

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[fightingquaker13]

A song for Badger. I think this might have been written a few years before BO. Blame Nixon, Carter and Reagan, particularly Reagan, as he oversaw the greatest damage and encouraged it with his tax policies. But it isn't solely him to blame. Hell, Clinton and W. with their cheer leading NAFTA and the WTO are up there, and since BO hasn't threatened to withdraw from either, if changes weren't made, blame him too.
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[Badgersmilk]

Point taken. 

So ALL this brings up one nagging question.  Being "King for a Day".  What would all of you do?  It's easy to talk the talk...

My answer is simple.  And we've got the military to stick it out.  Close the borders for an undetermined amount of time (years).  END WORLD TRADE.  Give a six month warning.  Then lock it down!

[fightingquaker13]

Point taken.  

So ALL this brings up one nagging question.  Being "King for a Day".  What would all of you do?  It's easy to talk the talk...

My answer is simple.  And we've got the military to stick it out.  Close the borders for an undetermined amount of time (years).  END WORLD TRADE.  Give a six month warning.  Then lock it down!

Slightly less radical here. Step one close the border. Step two, adjust the capital gains tax so that you get a total write off on profit made from a real business here in the US, not just paper profits (investment should be encouraged, but a small tax should be allowed) Step three, tax the profits and products made by US corporations overseas as if they were foreign goods and disallow any deduction as a "business expense" for any worker or facility built overseas. Fourth, admit that Ross was right and NAFTA did generate a "giant sucking sound" (I'll admit that I was for it as a good little free market libertarian, but hey, I grew up, and so should the country. ) I'm all for NAFTA, but only for NORTH America, you know, the parts where we both speak the same language and enjoy the same standard of living. Mexico can pound sand. As far as the rest, I open the floor.
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[tt11758]

11% of every purchase here.  

11%?!?   


BOHICA!!!!!

[tt11758]

Attorneys don't know shit about economics, pure and simple.  It's like expecting an engineer a poli-sci professor to be able to spell or be able to compose a cogent sentence, a cop to perform brain surgery or plumber clean your teeth!

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