Author Topic: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat  (Read 4258 times)

tombogan03884

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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2011, 01:17:18 PM »
Tom, we ain't talking about hybrids between plants here. We are talking about splicing fish genes into your veggies (you do eat you veggies, right?  ;D ) so the plant can absorb Roundup and not die (that's what the cutesy marketing phrase "Roundup Ready!" really means), whereas the weed next to it will die and not absorb nutrients, thereby increasing the yield per acre.

It is also about copyrighting the gene, and then trespassing on people's property to steal samples of their corn, and if the gene sequence is found in that corn, suing the land owner for copyright violations, even though the farmer thought he was planting non-GMO or non-copyrighted grains. This is not fantasy, it has already happened.

It is also about taking grain samples from around the world, some going back as far as 4000 years, and then copyrighting them, and forcing the people in that country to either cough up cash for copyright violations, or only buying seed stock from the vendor that now owns the copyright to the grain your family has been growing for generations.

You city people, I swear . . . . .    ;)


Fish Genes ?    ???  I can see another problem here,  the round up being absorbed into the food , IIRC, says on the label, "Do not ingest" or something similar.
Is this a case where GP may not be so far off track ?

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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2011, 10:54:44 PM »
Worse yet are the "kill genes" that make sure seeds from food are infertile so you have to buy from Mansanto. Great until the seeed factory goes down due to a teotawki and we starve to death cause can't you plant the beans, tomatos or corn in your field for next year. >:(
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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2011, 11:49:40 PM »
Worse yet are the "kill genes" that make sure seeds from food are infertile so you have to buy from Mansanto. Great until the seeed factory goes down due to a teotawki and we starve to death cause can't you plant the beans, tomatos or corn in your field for next year. >:(
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Heard about that, that's why I was surprised to read what Path posted about

 "  It is also about copyrighting the gene, and then trespassing on people's property to steal samples of their corn, and if the gene sequence is found in that corn, suing the land owner for copyright violations, even though the farmer thought he was planting non-GMO or non-copyrighted grains."

I always thought all those hybrids were sterile any way ?

Heritage seeds and shoot trespassers.

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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2011, 12:41:18 AM »
its actually scary how much of are food is "funny"  and has been for a very long time.

Just about all fruit trees are grafts and have been for a very, very long time.  Hell it was done 1000+ years ago. 

Every thing grow has been atleast hand pollinated for hundreds if not thousnads of years.

I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2011, 09:59:12 AM »
Heard about that, that's why I was surprised to read what Path posted about

 "  It is also about copyrighting the gene, and then trespassing on people's property to steal samples of their corn, and if the gene sequence is found in that corn, suing the land owner for copyright violations, even though the farmer thought he was planting non-GMO or non-copyrighted grains."

I always thought all those hybrids were sterile any way ?

Heritage seeds and shoot trespassers.

How do you shoot pollen out of the wind? 
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"No Maam.  If I was expecting trouble, I'd have a rifle."

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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2011, 10:44:32 AM »
How do you shoot pollen out of the wind?  

You can't and the Agro Business is using that fact to sue folks.

What is needed is a legal attack on them.   Folks who buy Heritage Seeds pay a premium for them and have them ruined by the invading pollen that destroys their ability for reseed.  The big companies should be sued for damages.  This isn't natural cross pollination, this is cross pollination designed exactly to ruin the Heritage Seeds.  A good case for criminal intent.

I'm not particularly fond of  "death by 1000 cuts" litigation, but, in this case, I'll call it self defense....they used this attack first.

Every back yard gardener should get legal assistance to file a claim.   Let the "Big Guys" cough up the funds to deal with millions of them in court.


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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2011, 11:53:54 AM »
How do you shoot pollen out of the wind?  

Actually I was thinking more along the lines of the corporate sample collectors.
Much easier targets.
But to answer your question.
Carefully, don't lead it to much.

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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2011, 03:34:44 PM »
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of the corporate sample collectors.
Much easier targets.
But to answer your question.
Carefully, don't lead it to much.

You have to sell your grain somewhere.  Problem is you can't legally grow your own grain on your own farm to feed your own livestock.

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tombogan03884

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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2011, 06:11:54 PM »
You have to sell your grain somewhere. Problem is you can't legally grow your own grain on your own farm to feed your own livestock.



???

Legally you can't grow pot either.
But a sh!t load of people do it.
You  realize that you have no legal responsibility to obey unconstitutional laws ?

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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2011, 06:48:00 PM »
You have to sell your grain somewhere.  Problem is you can't legally grow your own grain on your own farm to feed your own livestock.



Before I comment I need to know what you are saying here.  I don't understand your statement about must sell and can't feed what you grow.
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