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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2011, 07:27:06 AM »
Wickard vs. Filburn.  Clif notes version is the commerce clause allows regulation of people NOT engaging in commerce.

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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2011, 11:31:39 AM »
Quote from: r_w on July 25, 2011, 07:27:06 AM
Wickard vs. Filburn.  Clif notes version is the commerce clause allows regulation of people NOT engaging in commerce.



My point was to your post that you can not raise the grain yourself and feed it to your livestock.  I don't understand that statement or what you mean by it  ???  I am lost  ???
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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2011, 09:30:50 AM »
W v F was the case that said the USDA could tell a farmer what to do even if he wasn't selling anything because of the commerce clause.

It is the enabler of everything in the name of the commerce clause.

and it does say the USDA can tell farmers what to grow and do with the harvest, until challenged again.
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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2011, 10:59:19 AM »
Quote from: r_w on July 26, 2011, 09:30:50 AM
W v F was the case that said the USDA could tell a farmer what to do even if he wasn't selling anything because of the commerce clause.

It is the enabler of everything in the name of the commerce clause.

and it does say the USDA can tell farmers what to grow and do with the harvest, until challenged again.

So, you are saying, the USDA can tell a farmer a particular crop to grow and then make them give it to a food producer for free?
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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2011, 11:36:09 AM »
Quote from: Solus on July 26, 2011, 10:59:19 AM
So, you are saying, the USDA can tell a farmer a particular crop to grow and then make them give it to a food producer for free?

My understanding of W v F, YES for what to grow, NO to give it away--but can force you to sell it even at a loss. 

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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2011, 01:25:53 PM »
My understanding of the USDA is the only power they have over what and how much is if you participate in the farm programs.  For farmers that do not it is a free for all.
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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2011, 02:10:26 PM »
Every Dairy farm around here grows their own feed corn.
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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2011, 02:13:35 PM »
Quote from: tombogan03884 on July 26, 2011, 02:10:26 PM
Every Dairy farm around here grows their own feed corn.

Same here.....my next door neighbor and family have operated a dairy farm for several generations. They could not make it if they didn't grow their own grain and silage. Heck, it takes hundreds of acres to maintain the size herd they have.
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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2011, 02:52:16 PM »
Quote from: m58 on July 26, 2011, 01:25:53 PM
My understanding of the USDA is the only power they have over what and how much is if you participate in the farm programs.  For farmers that do not it is a free for all.

I didn't say they use the power today, but a liberal interpretation of the ruling would grant them that power.
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Re: Greenpeace destroys GM wheat
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2011, 03:33:41 PM »
Quote from: r_w on July 26, 2011, 02:52:16 PM
I didn't say they use the power today, but a liberal interpretation of the ruling would grant them they will exercise that power regardless of the law.

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