Will This Entitlement Mentality Ever Stop ?

[tombogan03884]

Actually Mitch, "Fat" has a more to do with WHAT you eat rather than how much you eat.
For example, most older poor Italians are fat, it's from eating so much Pasta.

[billt]

How can you consume 3000+ calories a day if you have no money?

How Do You Spell Relief?   F-O-O-D   S-T-A-M-P-S !   Bill T.

[Ichiban]

We don't have "poor" people. We have lazy bungholes stealing everything up to and including our air. Truly poor people aren't FAT!!
America has the fattest "poor" people on the planet. How can you consume 3000+ calories a day if you have no money?

Sadly it is very easy to be poor and fat.  Much of the junk food is cheaper (and easier) than the healthy alternative.  Just open a wrapper and shove it in your mouth.  Calorie count and fat is through the roof - that's why it tastes so good.  Many of the inner city area residents have to rely on fast food and convenience stores as no markets can survive in the high crime areas.

Being fat is very simple mathematics.  People that are trying to sell something make it more difficult.  "Healthy" is a whole different subject.

Fat = Calories in > calories used.

[billt]

Fat has a lot more to do with what you DO rather than with what you EAT.   Bill T.

[Solus]

Again, just eliminate welfare.  Forcing folks to support others is wrong no matter how deserving the recipient might be.  Let the local charities handle the hard luck cases or otherwise deserving.  They are right there in the neighborhood and know who is truly in need. 

Folks who wish to help others, and I do believe that will be the majority, will support the charities that they think are doing a good job of not wasting the donations.....and they will do it with much less overhead...I usually say the government wastes 50 cents of each dollar collected for welfare and am usually told I underestimate it.

In a generation or two, the folks who have had there incentive and desire to work stolen from them by the welfare program will either have starved or were able to adjust their outlook and provide for themselves.

And yes, Social Security is not an entitlement, no matter what the politicians are saying today.  Everyone working under SS contributed a good percentage of their pay to the program and their employer matched that contribution....so the employers part would have been paid to you, maybe put in a mandatory personal retirement account but it would belong to the worker.  And anything left after death...and that would likely be the case with compound interest for 65+ years....would go to their estate.

Unemployment compensation also is funded by the employers and it too should be counted as a person's pay...the employer always includes it in the benefit cost of an employee....and that fund should be invested so that there is enough to cover long term unemployment when politicians screw everything up.....as usual.

What isn't an entitlement is the salary of Congress and the Office of the President and staff.   By any reasonable argument, they are paid to do a job and that is to keep the country running efficiently..... and if you cannot do that job with a balanced budget, you are doing it poorly and your pay is withheld.   

[Sponsor]

[CJS3]

It all has to be eliminated. From SoSo security on down. It's the so called "gateway drug". Once you rationalize "aid" from the government, it CAN'T be curtailed at all.

The best way to do this would be a buy out. Just give people what they put in to the system, in a lump sum payment, and say adios. Most Americans would be surprised at how small that payment would be, even after 50 years of paying in.

[tt11758]

Again, just eliminate welfare.  Forcing folks to support others is wrong no matter how deserving the recipient might be.  Let the local charities handle the hard luck cases or otherwise deserving.  They are right there in the neighborhood and know who is truly in need. 

Folks who wish to help others, and I do believe that will be the majority, will support the charities that they think are doing a good job of not wasting the donations.....and they will do it with much less overhead...I usually say the government wastes 50 cents of each dollar collected for welfare and am usually told I underestimate it.

In a generation or two, the folks who have had there incentive and desire to work stolen from them by the welfare program will either have starved or were able to adjust their outlook and provide for themselves.

And yes, Social Security is not an entitlement, no matter what the politicians are saying today.  Everyone working under SS contributed a good percentage of their pay to the program and their employer matched that contribution....so the employers part would have been paid to you, maybe put in a mandatory personal retirement account but it would belong to the worker.  And anything left after death...and that would likely be the case with compound interest for 65+ years....would go to their estate.

Unemployment compensation also is funded by the employers and it too should be counted as a person's pay...the employer always includes it in the benefit cost of an employee....and that fund should be invested so that there is enough to cover long term unemployment when politicians screw everything up.....as usual.

What isn't an entitlement is the salary of Congress and the Office of the President and staff.   By any reasonable argument, they are paid to do a job and that is to keep the country running efficiently..... and if you cannot do that job with a balanced budget, you are doing it poorly and your pay is withheld.   

We have a winner!!

[tombogan03884]

CJ, Social Security is not "Aid from the gov." It's your own money. It was originally put in a trust fund for only that purpose, the only Gov involvement was in administering it, because they had Nation wide offices, that way the rules would be the same no matter what state you lived in.
It was stolen, and placed in the "General fund" by the Dems in order to bribe poor people to vote dem.
They same way they wanted to seize 401k funds a couple years ago.

[CJS3]

CJ, Social Security is not "Aid from the gov." It's your own money. It was originally put in a trust fund for only that purpose, the only Gov involvement was in administering it, because they had Nation wide offices, that way the rules would be the same no matter what state you lived in.
It was stolen, and placed in the "General fund" by the Dems in order to bribe poor people to vote dem.
They same way they wanted to seize 401k funds a couple years ago.

IT"S ALL OUR MONEY, EINSTEIN!!!!!!!

It doesn't matter what it's for. It doesn't matter how it was aquired. THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS BROKE. It doesn't matter how much they take out on payday. There is NO MONEY FOR THE GUBMINT TO SPEND. What's yours doesn't exist anymore.


That's why the debt ceiling was raised. The sooner the crash comes, the sooner we can recover. The quicker you understand that the dream of "retirement" is just that, A DREAM, the quicker the problem can be faced and delt with.

[Rastus]

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That's why the debt ceiling was raised. The sooner the crash comes, the sooner we can recover. The quicker you understand that the dream of "retirement" is just that, A DREAM, the quicker the problem can be faced and delt with.

The sooner the better.  I only have a few more years of work left in me.  I'd hate for it to hit a decade from now.  Plan A in a crash is to move back home to Louisiana and farm.  I've kept the tractor up, the farm implements, the artesian wells and the land has had a couple of decades to recover from earlier farming.