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Secret Service Oppinions of past Presidents.
« on: August 09, 2011, 05:16:08 PM »
Got this link in an email and thought yas might be interested.

Don't know how accurate what the guys says is, but it fits my conceptions of how things might be.

http://www.freedom-won.net/some-private-secret-service-comments-on-bush-and-obama/
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
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"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
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Re: Secret Service Oppinions of past Presidents.
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 07:54:29 PM »
I've read first hand accounts written by SS agents and the last Dem president to have their respect was JFK.

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Re: Secret Service Oppinions of past Presidents.
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 10:01:56 PM »
I've read first hand accounts written by SS agents and the last Dem president to have their respect was JFK.
I'm sure that's a great comfort to him. :o ;D
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Re: Secret Service Oppinions of past Presidents.
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 10:04:32 PM »
He didn't die because they ducked.   ;D

Darn, I couldn't find that clip from "Shrek" about saving my ass"  ;D

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Re: Secret Service Oppinions of past Presidents.
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2011, 07:23:15 AM »
Over night I wondered about the truth of the video. 

Not that any of it doesn't fit the my opinion of the Obama's, but it doesn't fit my opinion of the SS....either of which might be wrong.

Just seems Non-SS for them to discuss their current assignment...but maybe it was just to much for even them.

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
—Patrick Henry

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
— Daniel Webster

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Re: Secret Service Oppinions of past Presidents.
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Re: Secret Service Oppinions of past Presidents.
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 08:44:36 AM »
I think its a bunch of BS myself. A) they won't talk. B) Do you really believe that Republicans are all virtuous and kind and Dems are all jerks? I mean, that seems a bit too convient to me. Plus Barbara Bush as the saint? Every story out of DC paints her as a bitch on wheels (and I voted for her husband twice). Plus, how stupid do you have to be to piss off the folks you expect to take a bullet for you? That Al Gore story reeks of pure crap. But you knew that the second you saw the web page. Of course, it was still kind of funny. ;)
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Re: Secret Service Oppinions of past Presidents.
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 10:51:33 AM »
I think its a bunch of BS myself. A) they won't talk. B) Do you really believe that Republicans are all virtuous and kind and Dems are all jerks? I mean, that seems a bit too convient to me. Plus Barbara Bush as the saint? Every story out of DC paints her as a bitch on wheels (and I voted for her husband twice). Plus, how stupid do you have to be to piss off the folks you expect to take a bullet for you? That Al Gore story reeks of pure crap. But you knew that the second you saw the web page. Of course, it was still kind of funny. ;)
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As far as Presidents, YES I do believe that SS Agents would have that opinion. Face it, Reps usually campaign as pro law enforcement, pro military, except for Reagan all have been Veterans, at least since Ike.
Dems on the other hand, While often Veterans have been opposed to military spending through out Americas history, a fact that usually bites us in the ass when wars break out, the classic example being Korea.  Their championing of "oppressed minorities has consistently been characterized by disdain for law enforcement except when they want a photo op.
Hilary's abusive behavior was common knowledge even during Clinton's administration.
As a side note one item I read described carter as generally a very nice man usually but very temperamental, (think bipolar ), and generally dumber than dirt.
While it is off topic, here is an interesting little fact I found about LBJ;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson#War_record\

After America entered World War II in December 1941, Johnson, still in Congress, became a commissioned officer in the Naval Reserve, then asked Undersecretary of the Navy James Forrestal for a combat assignment.[16] Instead he was sent to inspect the shipyard facilities in Texas and on the West Coast. In the spring of 1942, President Roosevelt needed his own reports on what conditions were like in the Southwest Pacific. Roosevelt felt information that flowed up the military chain of command needed to be supplemented by a highly trusted political aide. From a suggestion by Forrestal, President Roosevelt assigned Johnson to a three-man survey team of the Southwest Pacific.

Johnson reported to General Douglas MacArthur in Australia. Johnson and two Army officers went to the 22nd Bomb Group base, which was assigned the high risk mission of bombing the Japanese airbase at Lae in New Guinea. A colonel took Johnson's original seat on one bomber, and it was shot down with no survivors. Reports vary on what happened to the B-26 Marauder carrying Johnson. Lyndon Johnson said it was also attacked by Japanese fighters but survived, while others, including other members of the flight crew, claim it turned back because of generator trouble before reaching the objective and before encountering enemy aircraft and never came under fire, which is supported by official flight records.[17] Other airplanes that continued to the target did come under fire near the target at about the same time that Johnson's plane was recorded as having landed back at the original airbase.[17]

MacArthur awarded Johnson the Silver Star, the military's third-highest medal, although it is notable that no other members of the flight crew were awarded medals, and it is unclear what Johnson could have done in his role purely as an "observer" to deserve the medal, even if his aircraft had seen combat. Johnson's biographer, Robert Caro, stated, "The most you can say about Lyndon Johnson and his Silver Star is that it is surely one of the most undeserved Silver Stars in history, because if you accept everything that he said, he was still in action for no more than 13 minutes and only as an observer. Men who flew many missions, brave men, never got a Silver Star."[17]

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Re: Secret Service Oppinions of past Presidents.
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2011, 11:02:32 AM »
I don't think it's a secret that obama and the Worst lady don't like White people in my opinion :'( ???
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Re: Secret Service Oppinions of past Presidents.
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2011, 11:09:21 AM »
Tom that story says a hell of a lot more about Douglas than it does LBJ. :-\ I'm not a fan of either, but MacArthur was always a political SOB who had a rep for playing favorites when it came to handing out medals, and often being damn petty about it. Look how he dissed t Army Colonel Fertig, who led the Filipino resistance. The guy never did get a medal or a promotion to General. Hell he's a hero at the JFK school for boys to this day, but Douglas didn't like him. ::)
FQ13  Who says MacArthur was a great man, but also a world class asshole.

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Re: Secret Service Oppinions of past Presidents.
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2011, 11:10:45 AM »
I've known a Secret Service agent (retired) and 1.) he did talk, and 2.) he had similar stories of Bush the elder, and Bubba.  While I don't buy everything stated hook, line, and sinker, I think that is does fit the impression I have of the parties mentioned.





 

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