In A Nutshell, The Rep. Candidates Positions On Gun Control. Good, Bad, Ugly.

[Solus]

Gotta disagree with ya.  Herman said it is a States decision (nothing about local).  Do YOU want a national CCW run by the feds?  I sure a s hell don't.  The 2A restricts the FEDS and acknowledges an individual right (a preexisting right).  Look to your states constitution for any restrictions or clarifications.  Keep the Feds out as much as possible so that WE keep control at the lowest practicable level, which in my opinion is state level.

Let me point out.  the movement is not about a National CCW, but about reciprocity between the states for CCW holders...just like there is for Driver's License holders.  As Tom B. pointed out, there might be a bit of federal input but the driver's license system is hardly under the thumb of the feds.  Very similar to how marriage licenses work too.

[Hazcat]

I wasn't talking about that movement but about what Cain said re: states.  I am all for reciprocity.

M58 I have no problem with 'constitutional' carry but I think if your going to get a permit issued by the state for concealed carry (which I think should be by permit) then the state should set the standards.

[MikeBjerum]

I disagree with a permit to carry period.  I can accept that if you fall into a situation where your Rights are revoked your ID needs to be flagged, but that is the same for all Rights (can anyone say voter ID?).

Allowing state regulation brings about the patchwork mess that we have today where one state allows one thing and another state another, one city says this, and a county says that.  We have created a mess that is noting more than infringement at its purest definition.

I agree with States' Rights, but a State can not remove a Constitutional protection of a Right from its citizens.

[tombogan03884]

States set the 'bar' for CCW permits (as in class time, range time, etc) and I think it should be that way.  They are not allowed to infringe on that right (McDonald case).  I have no problem with that.

I wasn't talking about that movement but about what Cain said re: states.  I am all for reciprocity.

M58 I have no problem with 'constitutional' carry but I think if your going to get a permit issued by the state for concealed carry (which I think should be by permit) then the state should set the standards.

There is no "competency test" for voting, you do not have to be able to spell to exercise freedom of the press.
States have no legal right to place any limits on firearms ownership. and that includes limiting it to "law abiding citizens".

[TAB]

There is no "competency test" for voting, you do not have to be able to spell to exercise freedom of the press.
States have no legal right to place any limits on firearms ownership. and that includes limiting it to "law abiding citizens".

Find a court rulling that says that.

I've never seen one.

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[Timothy]

Find a court rulling that says that.

I've never seen one.

You're 30 years old....there's a bunch you haven't seen!

As to the court case, it's moot.  Read the 10th Amendment!

Courts are wrong on occasion there Kid, that's whey there is a court of appeals and higher courts.  Once you get to the SCOTUS, the bucks stops but they're still wrong on occasion!

[TAB]

You're 30 years old....there's a bunch you haven't seen!

As to the court case, it's moot.  Read the 10th Amendment!

Courts are wrong on occasion there Kid, that's whey there is a court of appeals and higher courts.  Once you get to the SCOTUS, the bucks stops but they're still wrong on occasion!

you forget, up until heller, there was no court case that said we actaully had a right to even keep arms.  It was just implied...

So please show me a case.

[Timothy]

The Bill of Rights prevails. 

Courts are meaningless in that regard.  The Supreme Court of the United States is there to ENSURE that the Constitution is not violated not re-write the law so your point is moot!

[TAB]

The Bill of Rights prevails. 

Courts are meaningless in that regard.  The Supreme Court of the United States is there to ENSURE that the Constitution is not violated not re-write the law so your point is moot!

actually up until heller it didn't.  atleast when it came to owning guns.

[Timothy]

actually up until heller it didn't.  atleast when it came to owning guns.

I've owned guns my entire adult life there youngster.  I never had to ask permission until I moved to Massachusetts.  I didn't even need permission when I lived in your f***ed up state for two years, well before you were born!

Heller only reinforced incorporation of the 2nd Amendment!  Something that should have not been an issue in the first place.

It meant nothing to me!