Author Topic: In A Nutshell, The Rep. Candidates Positions On Gun Control. Good, Bad, Ugly.  (Read 6462 times)

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Re: In A Nutshell, The Rep. Candidates Positions On Gun Control. Good, Bad, Ugly.
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2011, 02:40:08 PM »
TAB, I offer you the Dredd Scot decision to to point out how both of you arguments are wrong.
The reason SCOTUS ruled Scot (a slave ) was not a US citizen and therefore had no right to petition them was based on the fact that if they ruled otherwise he , and all other slaves, would be entitled to all the other rights of a citizen including the right to keep and carry arms when and where they wished.
Justice Taney's decision specifies keeping and carrying arms as an undeniable right of citizenship and dates to before the Civil war.

That fact that the decision was overturned illustrates that the courts decisions are based less on actual Constitutional meaning than on political expediency and following the latest PC fad.
Just because a politically appointed court makes a ruling doesn't mean it is correct.
The ultimate interpretation of the Bill of rights is what are you willing to fight for .

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Re: In A Nutshell, The Rep. Candidates Positions On Gun Control. Good, Bad, Ugly.
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2011, 05:18:45 PM »
I listened to Newt.  It was a fascinating history lesson.  However, I trust Newt to not sell us out about as much as I trust my Lab puppy to not chew my wife's socks.

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Re: In A Nutshell, The Rep. Candidates Positions On Gun Control. Good, Bad, Ugly.
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2011, 05:45:24 PM »
I listened to Newt.  It was a fascinating history lesson.  However, I trust Newt to not sell us out about as much as I trust my Lab puppy to not chew my wife's socks.

True with any politician. But I am glad you watched it, and posted a follow up. Do I think Newt is the nominee of choice for the Rep.?

 No, Not really.... A former Washington Inside the Beltway politician is exactly what we, IMHO, do NOT need. However, to my OP, and the 2nd Amend. He is the ONLY politician with the stones to state that the 2nd Amend. Is not there for hunters, target shooters, or even personal self defense,....

Those are a given inalienable right granted by Our Creator.

It is, as the Founders ingeniously knew, as the ultimate "fail-safe" from a rampant, corrupt, tyranny. (Which we are very close to BTW)...

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
President Thomas Jefferson

Newt, despite his Presidential/Political shortcomings, historically and realistically, understands what our Founding Fathers meant by the 2nd Amend.

If he is the nominee, and that is a big IF,,......I wouldn't hesitate to vote for him, and not have to hold my nose like I did for McCain. BHO must go PERIOD.

As I posted they could put up BoBo the clown and he would get my vote, just to get this POS out. (I'm already on a list or three so no worries),... ;)

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Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: In A Nutshell, The Rep. Candidates Positions On Gun Control. Good, Bad, Ugly.
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2011, 04:51:57 PM »
Anybody else think it a tad ironic, even borderline arrogant, for TAB to be asking somebody to back up their contentions?  ;D
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Re: In A Nutshell, The Rep. Candidates Positions On Gun Control. Good, Bad, Ugly.
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2011, 04:59:11 PM »
Anybody else think it a tad ironic, even borderline arrogant, for TAB to be asking somebody to back up their contentions?  ;D

That fact is only lost on TAB....the rest of us pretty much got that too!

I was pretty arrogant when I was his age too but I always listened to those with more knowledge because you can always learn something!  The minute you think you know everything, you're quickly reminded that you're an idiot!

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