Herman Cain Wins Florida Straw Poll By A Big Margin

[twyacht]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/24/herman-cain-wins-cpac-florida-straw-poll/

ORLANDO — Former Godfather Pizza CEO Herman Cain won the Presidency 5 straw poll here Saturday, delivering a blow to Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s frontrunner status and a victory for a candidate who has struggled to transform his grassroots popularity into strong showings in national polls.

“Tonight’s winner is Herman Cain,” Florida Gov. Rick Scott announced. “It shows you something, the road to the White House come through Florida, and it pays to spend time here.”

He received 37 percent of the more than 2,600 votes cast.

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He does have a K.I.S.S. plan,...we'll see.

[Hazcat]

Notice how it is always "Former Godfather Pizza CEO".  Somehow they fail to mention "former Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City".  Odd isn't it?

I'm sure it's just an innocent oversight.  

[Herknav]

I'm curious as to what conditions he left the two aforementioned jobs under.

[Hazcat]

I'm curious as to what conditions he left the two aforementioned jobs under.

I haven't heard anything negative.

[mortdooley]

 I would like a better description of his 9,9,9 plan, he said it was a 9% personal income tax, 9% corporate tax and 9% federal sales tax. Sounds like a 27% flat tax with no deductions, the federal government takes 9% when I make it then charges me 9% when I buy something in addition to the 8.25% state and local tax I already pay and corporations pass on to me the extra 9% they are taxed. Sounds like he must mean something else or he needs to drop out right now!

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[TAB]

flat tax is bad idea on so many levels its not even funny.  A very large chunk of the funds comes from pay roll taxs as well.  should we have 9% on that as well?  making that 9% really 18% for every one with a W-2, which is most of the population.

[bjtraz]

How can a flat tax be bad on so many levels? You make $xxx.xx, multiply it by %x and pay it. EVERYBODY pays the same, except cheaters, dealt with on a different forum. The problem now, is so many tax attys and others finding numerous deductions, so that those that can afford to, pay less percentage than those that can't. I challenge you to find a "fairer" form of taxation.

Brian

[TAB]

How can a flat tax be bad on so many levels? You make $xxx.xx, multiply it by %x and pay it. EVERYBODY pays the same, except cheaters, dealt with on a different forum. The problem now, is so many tax attys and others finding numerous deductions, so that those that can afford to, pay less percentage than those that can't. I challenge you to find a "fairer" form of taxation.

Brian

Take 2 people, they make the exact same ammount.( does not matter the ammount)

one works for some one else, the other owns thier own company.  They have several employees, leverage every thing they own, barrows even more.

should they  pay the same tax? or should the guy that is taking risks and pumping $$$$ into the econ pay more or less tax?

or what about this,  why should a single renter pay more tax then a married home owner?  Why should having kids mean you pay less tax? 

should some one that makes 15k a year ( min wage) pay the same tax as some one making 1.5 billion?

don't get me wrong the system we have now is messed up, but a pure flat tax would be even worse.

[tombogan03884]

Give me one good reason why the guy who makes 1.5 B should be penalized because the other guy is not skilled enough to earn more than minimum wage.

If "Paying his fair share" is 10% or $1500 for the Min Wage guy then then 10% or $150M is damn sure a fair share from the other guy.

The "graduated income tax" is another one of FDR's socialist scams. A flat tax eliminates the current loop holes put in place to make lawyers and accountants rich.

[Solus]

quote author TAB

Take 2 people, they make the exact same ammount.( does not matter the ammount)

one works for some one else, the other owns thier own company.  They have several employees, leverage every thing they own, barrows even more.

should they  pay the same tax? or should the guy that is taking risks and pumping $$$$ into the econ pay more or less tax?

They should pay the same.  Unless the risk taker is willing to share some of the rewards of taking that risk with "society" since by giving them a break, "society" is sharing part of that risk.

or what about this,  why should a single renter pay more tax then a married home owner?  Why should having kids mean you
pay less tax? 

Again, they should pay the same.  What you might not see is that done correctly, the flat tax should be no more than 5%, perhaps 4%, being supplemented by the appropriate excise tax system.  In any case, the married/w children and the homeowner will pay far less in tax than they do under the current system.

should some one that makes 15k a year ( min wage) pay the same tax as some one making 1.5 billion?

Same percentage, yes.  It might be tougher for the lower incomes since necessities take up a greater portion of their income, but they will still be doing better than the current system.

don't get me wrong the system we have now is messed up, but a pure flat tax would be even worse.

I say the flat tax, with the right excise tax and elimination of unconstitutional government spending and we all make out better.....some maybe better than another, but lets not get this whole boondoggle started again my trying to make things "fair" with loop holes.