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Jack Booted Thugs; See What A Buy A Car Get A Gun Promo Gets You.
« on: September 27, 2011, 03:18:28 PM »
Is this still America?

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46443

Max Motors targeted by ATF, banks and General Motors
Missouri car dealer offered AK-47's with new car purchases

by  Neil W. McCabe
09/27/2011

Despite the White House harassment, and the loss of financing and insurance arrangements that came in the past, the Butler, Mo., car dealer who will be giving away AK-47’s again starting in October.


“Guess what? We are doing it again! It is the Fourth Annual Great Guns and Gas Give-Away!” said Mark Muller, the owner of Max Motors, whose July 17, 2009 interview with CNN’s Carol Costello about his promotion was great publicity, but brought him unwelcome attention.


Within days of the CNN broadcast, three agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives arrived at the dealership, he said.


“I was not there, they identified themselves and asked who was in-charge, and everybody pointed at each other,” he said.

Undeterred, the agents demanded to see the guns, he said. When it was explained that there were no actual guns, and that the promotion was really for vouchers towards the purchase of an AK-47, the agents did not believe it.


“There was an empty gun box here from a gun dealer in North Carolina, and they took that and demanded to see the gun that came with that box,” he said. The agents also went into storage rooms and took photos.


The next day, Muller received a call from the ATF asking him to come in for a meeting with all of his personal guns,
which they insisted they had to authority to order, he said. Muller held his ground and refused to submit to the audit without first going through due process.

“The ATF people were just as nice as can be. They were not mean or hateful—and finally I asked the lady on the phone: Don’t you have something better to do?” he said. He then re-explained that there were vouchers for guns and that no guns were being given away.

“She said: ‘Let me tell you how important this is, the White House started their morning with a briefing on you. We got a call from Washington, D.C. this morning. They wanted you checked out,” he said.


“That’s your big government in action. I’m a guy exercising his constitutional rights and I’m such a threat to security that the White House has to check in on me?” he said.


At the end of his conversation with the ATF agent, she threatened to raid his house to audit his personal firearms, but it never happened, Muller said.


In addition to the government, Muller said his business relationships also suffered.


“First National Bank of Kansas called and said they did not appreciate the promotion. We were cancelled instantly. ‘Never send us more paperwork: You’re done,’” he said. This was the end of three-year relationship.


“The bank told me was political: ‘What you’re doing is irresponsible—and we don’t ever want to do business with anyone like you ever again,’” he said.

“I had another business in the next county north of me here, and I got another cease and desist letter from the insurance company in Harrisonville saying they are cancelling all of my insurance immediately,” he said. “That was for a business that didn’t even involve Max Motors.”


The state of Missouri also got in on the act, he said.

“The Missouri Department of Revenue came down on Max Motors for some very petty stuff and threatened to shut me down,” he said.

“When I asked the agent if this had anything to do with my gun promotion he just smiled big and said what promotion?” he said. “He was a real jerk and this also stinks of Big Government.”


The most serious action came in a letter from Detroit, he said.


“The factory rep walked in and had a letter that said: Do to the gunning of the Jewish community center in California by a right-wing extremist,” he said. The letter directed Muller to cease and desist the AK-47 promotion immediately or General Motors, the parent of Chevrolet, Buick, GMAC and Cadillac, would revoke his dealer agreement.


When Muller asked the factory rep to see the letter, which was addressed to him and signed by then-GM Vice-Chairman and Senior Advisor Robert A. Luntz, the rep refused to hand it to him. “She said: I can’t give it to you.” But, holding it firmly, the rep allowed Muller to read it himself.

“I got Ford, Dodge, Chevy, Jeep, Buick, GMC and was Cadillac,” he said. “They took Cadillac away from me, but now they are going to give it back to me.”

Coming up in October when he brings the promotion back, Muller said he is undeterred.


“I got a great picture of an AK-47 in the newspaper. I am doing it at the Ford dealership, but I am advertising in the paper where I have my Chevy dealership, so when GM complains, I’ll ask ‘em: So, now you’re telling me what I can do at the Ford store? I tell them: I understand that Government Motors is an all-encompassing thing, but don’t you think that is a little strong?”


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I'm glad he is doing it again, if I had the extra money, I'd fly up there and buy one of his cars, and drive back. With my AK.

I hope they post the banks, lenders, insurance co's, anyone who came down on this car dealer. F them and their grasseating BS.

Expose them for the vermin they are, boycott their companies, send them letters why your cancelling/closing your account.

Let them get a taste of the shi* sandwich they served up.

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Re: Jack Booted Thugs; See What A Buy A Car Get A Gun Promo Gets You.
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2011, 03:44:38 PM »
So, let me get this straight.....


The White House is having First Thing In The Morning Meetings about this and are all over it like vultures, giving it A #1 Top Rush Priority and these same vigilant watch dogs claim to be unaware that their very same agency the are working with on this walked over 2000 guns to drug cartels in Mexico?

Wish I had that video of Bill Clinton laughing uncontrollably for this one....well, and edited version with just the laughing.

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Re: Jack Booted Thugs; See What A Buy A Car Get A Gun Promo Gets You.
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2011, 04:28:01 PM »
No problem Solus...



I can't find the Carter one though..... ::)
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Re: Jack Booted Thugs; See What A Buy A Car Get A Gun Promo Gets You.
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2011, 05:07:45 PM »

Is it a good thing the AFT is checking to see if they are actually giving out guns?

yes, they are a law enforcment agentcy, that deals with guns, that is thier job( rather you agree with the laws or not)

The way they went about it is what sucks.
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Re: Jack Booted Thugs; See What A Buy A Car Get A Gun Promo Gets You.
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2011, 05:48:00 PM »
I seem to remember the Bank of Denver (is that right) gave out rifles (coupons of course) for years.   Weatherby's at one point?  Did they also give out Winslow rifles too at some point?    I guess those bolt actions rifles were PC though.

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Re: Jack Booted Thugs; See What A Buy A Car Get A Gun Promo Gets You.
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2011, 06:08:40 PM »
The other all brands dealer down the road has no ccw signs on the windows.  Guess which one will get my business?
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Re: Jack Booted Thugs; See What A Buy A Car Get A Gun Promo Gets You.
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2011, 07:28:06 PM »
The other all brands dealer down the road has no ccw signs on the windows.  Guess which one will get my business?

Let them know why they lost your business..and have all your friends let them know they will be bypassing them when they look.
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Re: Jack Booted Thugs; See What A Buy A Car Get A Gun Promo Gets You.
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 09:50:17 AM »
Let them know why they lost your business..and have all your friends let them know they will be bypassing them when they look.



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Re: Jack Booted Thugs; See What A Buy A Car Get A Gun Promo Gets You.
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2011, 10:32:03 AM »
honestly, if you hand me a biz card with a political statement on it, I'm going to wipe my ass with it, hand it back and tell you to get the f..k off my property.


I find that to be extremely rude, if you have a political statement to make, either talk to me about it or send me a letter.
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Re: Jack Booted Thugs; See What A Buy A Car Get A Gun Promo Gets You.
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2011, 10:58:28 AM »
honestly, if you hand me a biz card with a political statement on it, I'm going to wipe my ass with it, hand it back and tell you to get the f..k off my property.


I find that to be extremely rude, if you have a political statement to make, either talk to me about it or send me a letter.

Most excellent !
Then not only can I deny you my money, I can have you arrested for indecent exposure, maybe even get you on the sex offenders list.
Sweet !  ;D

 

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