Surviving a traffic stop

[Magoo541]

Argue with the judge, that what he's there for.   

Usually he's the only person in the process that knows your rights, the law and how to properly enforce the latter.  At least was my experience in CT.

[tombogan03884]

Usually he's the only person in the process that knows your rights, the law and how to properly enforce the latter.  At least was my experience in CT.

Like this one ?

http://news.yahoo.com/dad-caught-video-beating-daughter-needs-help-070228201.html

The Debil made do it !     

[Magoo541]

Like this one ?

http://news.yahoo.com/dad-caught-video-beating-daughter-needs-help-070228201.html

The Debil made do it !     

I said USUALLY! 

As for the video....
Good thing for parents when I was growing up we didn't have video cameras or Youtube to post videos for the world to see....  mom liked kindling sticks, dad liked what ever was handy.  3 boys spanning 4 years in age and one of them hell-on-wheels, NO not me I was hell-bent-for-leather, they had their hands full.

[Dakotaranger]

I live in a state (ND) where you are not required to tell an officer during a stop if you are carrying or not. Assuming a routine traffic stop, I asked a County Deputy - in front of 2 Sgts. and a Captain - what would he do if a driver informed him the driver had a CCW and was carrying. His response - cuff the driver "for the officer's safety".

Granted, this was a twerp with the obligatory "operator" haircut and Oakley Razorblades (or whatever passes for "operator" tech in eye wear these days), but he was also a Field Training Officer for the County. He kinda glared at me when I then asked why he was so scared of a law-abiding citizen who informed him. He replied with "vigor" that he was not afraid, repeated that he would cuff the driver, and it was all for officer safety.

All of the other officers - including the brass - intoned zombie-like "It's all about officer safety".

So, no, I will not inform unless required to by law.

I was under the impression we were required to inform.  Did that change?  The one time I did inform I was hit and I informed the responding officer she didn't do anything to me.  "The kid got a ticket for failure to drive with care.

[Magoo541]

I was under the impression we were required to inform.  Did that change?  The one time I did inform I was hit and I informed the responding officer she didn't do anything to me.  "The kid got a ticket for failure to drive with care.

I had an accident on Labor Day, hit a pedestrian in the shadow of a tree early in the morning, on my way to the range with my two oldest girls, with every gun I own in the back of my Element.  It never crossed my mind to say anything to the officers and I am sure they looked in my vehicle.  Nothing was said, I was ticketed, non-copable, and I went home and broke down in my wife's arms.
I should know what the law is but its not like I live in NJ...

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[fightingquaker13]

I had an accident on Labor Day, hit a pedestrian in the shadow of a tree early in the morning, on my way to the range with my two oldest girls, with every gun I own in the back of my Element.  It never crossed my mind to say anything to the officers and I am sure they looked in my vehicle.  Nothing was said, I was ticketed, non-copable, and I went home and broke down in my wife's arms.
I should know what the law is but its not like I live in NJ...

Sorry to hear that Magoo. I hpoe things worked out.
FQ13

[MikeBjerum]

In Minnesota we are not required to disclose.  If I have nothing that could tip the officer off (IWB carry, vault, ammunition, holster(s), magazines, knife, flashlight, etc. in plain sight) I make the decision on a case by case basis.  If there is evidence of weapons in plain view, or if they may be seen at some point, I will be up front right away.

I have never had an issue!  They ask where, I tell them, they give me an instruction or two, and we move forward.  The only time an officer took my gun (he didn't really take it - It was like you asking how I like a certain gun and my opinions on it) was because he had interest in it and wanted to handle it.  I unholstered, unloaded and handed it to him.  When he gave it back I reloaded and holstered.

I can fully understand the advice about disclosing.  I have no interest in it if that is your choice.  And, I have no problem with people like MB, MJ or RP advising it.  They are not only teaching and writing for a national audience, they are advising the lowest common denominator.  If someone listens to or reads their advice and acts stupid any "expert" needs to make sure they have covered their own butts in all jurisdictions.  A thirty minute TV program, Podcast or a blog is not long enough to educate on all the possible situations, so they must stay general and to the strictest interpretation of any law.

[jaybet]

I had an accident on Labor Day, hit a pedestrian in the shadow of a tree early in the morning, on my way to the range with my two oldest girls, with every gun I own in the back of my Element.  It never crossed my mind to say anything to the officers and I am sure they looked in my vehicle.  Nothing was said, I was ticketed, non-copable, and I went home and broke down in my wife's arms.
I should know what the law is but its not like I live in NJ...

Sorry to hear that...and that your girls had to witness it too. But things could be worse...you COULD live in NJ.

[Magoo541]

Sorry to hear that...and that your girls had to witness it too. But things could be worse...you COULD live in NJ.

I could live in NJ, but I won't, ever, for any reason, even if the rest of the US sunk I'd live on a boat first  .  But I do support those that are fighting the good fight in NJ, speaking of which I need to send some $ to those guys.

[GASPASSERDELUXE]

I was born and raised in NJ until I went in the Air Force. All of the family I had in NJ have passed on or moved out except my brother in law. I only go there for funerals and since there isn't anybody left for that I don't have to go back there anymore.

If any body asks where I am from I tell them but in a very low voice. My sister asked me why i didn't move back to NJ. I told her if I had some terrible illness and the only cure was in NJ, I would rather die here in TEXAS.