Since When Is The Term "Indian Giver" "Racist" ??

[billt]

I could care less about the broad, or the story for that matter, but this kind of crap is getting insane.

http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/128278/kris_jenner_uses_racist_language?utm_medium=sem2&utm_campaign=outbrain&utm_source=outbrain&utm_content=outbrain

[fightingquaker13]

That's not PC, its fact Bill. I'm not wading through the links, just laying this out."Indian giver" refers to promising something then reneging on the deal. In probably one of the more bizarrely Freudian displacement episodes of all time, white folks associated this with Indians. WTF? We made how many treaties and them broke them at our convenience? Invited chiefs to "peace talks" and shot them under a flag of truce? And then we blame them for being so dishonest that we name the act after them. That's not PC, that's just the damn truth. And frankly I do think that the term isn't just racist, its slander and embarrassing to us.
FQ13

[billt]

How come nobody cried until now? 40 years ago all this stuff was just fine, now the Cleveland Indians are catching hell for their logo? The only reason this kind of crap gets any traction is because people let it. Now if you've got a coffee cup with Stars & Bars on it, you're a "racist". The word no longer has any meaning directly because of crap like this.

[tombogan03884]

While I think that FQ's tirade is a bunch of touchy feely crap, I will note that each of those treaties was signed further West than the one before it.
This is actually a 1st amendment issue.
As for the Indians being offended, f*ck'em, they lost.

[Timothy]

I have a Cleveland hat BECAUSE of the logo!

 

As to Kris Jenner and the rest of the dimwits, including Bruce....find a piece of driftwood and send the happy band of dimwits oFf on a long journey to "who the f..k cares, Island!"

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[fightingquaker13]

How come nobody cried until now? 40 years ago all this stuff was just fine, now the Cleveland Indians are catching hell for their logo? The only reason this kind of crap gets any traction is because people let it. Now if you've got a coffee cup with Stars & Bars on it, you're a "racist". The word no longer has any meaning directly because of crap like this.

Thats my point Bill. I don't think its crap, I think in this case it IS racist. As to why didn't people care forty years ago, they did, only the ones in charge didn't. I'm no PC maven as you know, but sometimes "PC" is just another term for good manners.  This is one of those times.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

Actually we consider FQ to be our token PC maven.

[fightingquaker13]

Actually we consider FQ to be our token PC maven.

So now I'm just a token? A brother can't get on this board without affirmative action? Is that what you're saying? Racist asshole!
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

So now I'm just a token? A brother can't get on this board without affirmative action? Is that what you're saying? Racist asshole!
FQ13

Not at all FQ, what I'm saying is if you need AA you don't belong here.
The rest of us believe in earning our stuff.

[billt]

As to why didn't people care forty years ago, they did, only the ones in charge didn't.  FQ13

There was no such thing as "PC" 40 years ago. No one was "in charge", because no one cared. It was recognised as being silly and stupid then, which is exactly why nobody paid an ounce of attention to it. That song got plenty of air play when I was in high school. No radio station ever even thought of "banning" it. It goes to show how far off the rails we've become. Today something "offends" everyone because no one can take a joke.

And for what it's worth I agree with Tom. The Indians lost, f#*k em. As far as I'm concerned we should have used slave labor to clean up Hiroshima, then sent them a bill!