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Re: Who is an Organ Donor - as proposed by the BHO Administration
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2011, 12:15:53 PM »

FQ13 who really does think its a criminal waste not to donate

WHAT?!?!?!? So in your eyes if I choose NOT to donate my organs for whatever PERSONAL reason I may have, you see me as a criminal? Are my organs not mine then?, but simply on loan to me while I'm breathing?

I suppose you think I should be subsidizing your housing and groceries too?
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Re: Who is an Organ Donor - as proposed by the BHO Administration
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2011, 12:18:29 PM »
Apparently you didn't see the EX part.

Better stop accusing Tom of only reading the first line of a post.  ;D
I was assuming you'd put it in a note with the alimony check. Of course if it was a bad divorce, she might want to see your eyes (or other parts) attached to someone else. ;)
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Re: Who is an Organ Donor - as proposed by the BHO Administration
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2011, 12:20:23 PM »
WHAT?!?!?!? So in your eyes if I choose NOT to donate my organs for whatever PERSONAL reason I may have, you see me as a criminal? Are my organs not mine then?, but simply on loan to me while I'm breathing?

I suppose you think I should be subsidizing your housing and groceries too?
It was kind of a figure of speech JC, as in a really big waste, not a bill of indictment. Step away from the koolaid....... ;D
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Re: Who is an Organ Donor - as proposed by the BHO Administration
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2011, 12:27:12 PM »
Fortunately, Wyoming is a non alimony state.  ;D

As far as a figure of speech? Not sure I buy that. You don't make a charge of wrong doing, or potentially call someone a criminal unless you believe it.

Well, ok, democrats do that all the time...... ::) 
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Re: Who is an Organ Donor - as proposed by the BHO Administration
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2011, 12:30:18 PM »
Fortunately, Wyoming is a non alimony state.  ;D

As far as a figure of speech? Not sure I buy that. You don't make a charge of wrong doing, or potentially call someone a criminal unless you believe it.

Well, ok, democrats do that all the time...... ::)  
Dude, "criminal waste" is a figure of speech and always has been, at least if you grow up in a Scottish household, because there you here it often.
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Re: Who is an Organ Donor - as proposed by the BHO Administration
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2011, 12:30:30 PM »
I certainly wouldn't go that far. The property rights claim is both wrong and brings up unpleasant images. However, I do think organ donation should be an "opt out" rather than an "opt in' system. That is, if you DON'T want to donate for whatever reason, you should be able to check the no box when you get your DL. If you don't check no, that means you give consent. Its pretty much the same system we have now only in reverse. It puts the burden on those who wish to let their corpse rot rather than helping others live (and yes I do have a strong opinion here).
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Re: Who is an Organ Donor - as proposed by the BHO Administration
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2011, 12:35:54 PM »
Dude, "crimal waste" is a figure of speech and always has been, at least if you grow up in a Scottish household, because there you here it often.
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I here it often here too. And it is almost always in reference to poaching.
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Re: Who is an Organ Donor - as proposed by the BHO Administration
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2011, 12:38:48 PM »
And this misguided soul wonders why I call him a faux libertarian.  ::)  ::)  ???  ???
Either way its your property and your choice. The question is about presumed ownership of said property post mortem. Think of it like trash. Its yours until you take it to the street. Then you surrender rights to it due to abandonment, unless you make other arrangements. Seems like a pretty libertarian viewpoint to me.
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Re: Who is an Organ Donor - as proposed by the BHO Administration
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2011, 12:43:03 PM »
Unfortunately "criminal waste" is pretty much in the same category as "it's a crime" and "there ought to be a law".

While they may have started out as just figures of speech, they seem to have become the mindset for those pushing for more government control and when folks get used to thinking in those terms, the sheep are much more accepting.
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Re: Who is an Organ Donor - as proposed by the BHO Administration
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2011, 12:44:53 PM »
Either way its your property and your choice. The question is about presumed ownership of said property post mortem. Think of it like trash. Its yours until you take it to the street. Then you surrender rights to it due to abandonment, unless you make other arrangements. Seems like a pretty libertarian viewpoint to me.
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You heaping pile of garbage - or soon to be:  If you claim that it is "your property and your choice" why not make it an opt in rather than you wish of opt out?

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