Ron Paul supporters?...

[tombogan03884]

Actually, this i completely irrelevant now. The damage is so pervasive no one will be able to undo it. Remember what happened to W when he tried to fire the US Attorneys - who reported to him through the DOJ and served only at his discretion? Imagine the hundreds of thousands of bho-fanatics now infesting the .gov.

Romney will do little to turn the tide, a lot of .gov stuff will go under the covers, and life (in DC) will go on as always. The .gov and TPTB will protect themselves. Think I'm wrong? Ask JFK.

Besides, assuming you're right and bho loses, you're forgetting the whole 2 months that bho has to royally eff us over before he leaves. If he does leave.

These bastards have been digging in in politics and education since the 30's

I've been staying positive, and not saying much about what we REALLY need to do.
But if Romney loses we will wind up going to guns with in 4 years max.
Hopefully in the "lame duck" session he will be to busy trying to fight the results to screw us to badly.   

[Timothy]

I really don't have a problem with Ron Paul in general terms.  Once upon a time, he and I were on similar career paths!  I tried very hard in my youth to examine as many vaginas that I could under extreme circumstances!

 

[GeorgeCook]

Well, that makes 5 that think Georgie is an idiot for continuing to beat the dead horse of Paul's 4th and final campaign.

Doesn't really matter to me what any of you think.

If one didn't think the Feds were that stupid, one would surmise you are nothing but a federal informant based on the comments you have posted in the past. Really. You are straight out of central casting for sure.

But you can call me names all you want Tommie "The Internet Pussy" Bogan if that makes you feel better. I'll let you get back to inciting others to murder politicians and other "patriotic" activities...

[GeorgeCook]

I really don't have a problem with Ron Paul in general terms.  Once upon a time, he and I were on similar career paths!  I tried very hard in my youth to examine as many vaginas that I could under extreme circumstances!

 

Tim that's pretty funny!

For the record, the Ron Paul thing is a dead issue to me. I put that quote there for other reasons. It must have struck a nerve with little Tommie though.

[billt]

George, who are you voting for?

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[Timothy]

George,

I don't think I've ever offended you!  Forgive me if I have!  

We are what we are, Americans with opinions!  Can you imagine the debates that took place whilst writing our great Constitution?

Sometimes our opinions differ but whenever we take things too seriously, the debate suffers!  We all need to get beyond that and remember that this country matters most and it's derailment into European socialism is what unites us and makes us fight harder to prevent the descent into the depths!  I think that if we all come to a common, ideological center and commit to the common good of the country, we can all eventually overcome!

Tom may be a pain in the ass but, he's our pain in the ass!  I'd much rather have him on my side then the alternative!

Respectfully submitted...

T

[tombogan03884]

I say what I think, and unless I state it is an opinion I will back it with references.
I don't particularly care who I offend, nor do I concern myself with consequences.
If others lack the courage to do the same that is between them and their self respect.
If they have any.

George is simply being his sissified troll self because I made reference to his former heroic departure as "FullAuto" as a matter of full disclosure on MB blog since he thought it was appropriate to call me an asshole , which childishness I called him on.
Since he isn't actually bright enough to engage in sarcasm he has to resort to name calling.
I'm really surprised he took time from his bromance with that phony Cline.

[GeorgeCook]

George,

I don't think I've ever offended you!  Forgive me if I have!  

We are what we are, Americans with opinions!  Can you imagine the debates that took place whilst writing our great Constitution?

Sometimes our opinions differ but whenever we take things too seriously, the debate suffers!  We all need to get beyond that and remember that this country matters most and it's derailment into European socialism is what unites us and makes us fight harder to prevent the descent into the depths!  I think that if we all come to a common, ideological center and commit to the common good of the country, we can all eventually overcome!

Tom may be a pain in the ass but, he's our pain in the ass!  I'd much rather have him on my side then the alternative!

Respectfully submitted...

T

Timothy, you are fine with me. We have had our differences of opinion on stuff before, but I have never had an issue with you personally. In fact I'm fine with everyone here, except Tom. I realize you guys like Tom, and that's fine with me too. Though I think he acts like a little punk, I think he's capable of carrying his own water - y'all don't need to defend him. Oh well....

BTW, I really thought your comment about Paul above was really funny. I wasn't being sarcastic. LOL! You come with good one liners on occasion. I remember you tagged me pretty good about a topic I posted on whether a 300 Winchester Magnum is too much for deer hunting or something like that. You pointed out the irony since I advocate the liberalization of laws on select fire weapons. I really thought it was dead-on and I got a good chuckle about it too. 

For Mr. BillT:
I plan to vote for Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party. I have to tell you from my conscience I can not bring myself to vote for Mitt Romney. And despite what y'all say, a vote for Johnson is not a vote for Obama. If I could vote for VP separately, like they did way back when, I would vote for Paul Ryan; he's close enough for me. But like others posted, we don't get to vote for VP, we have to vote for the package deal. That is a deal breaker for me.

For those who do vote for R/R, I think you are going to be very disappointed should Romney be elected. I really do think this guy will sell us down the river on gun rights. The reason is he sees other issues facing the nation being far more important. And if he can get a deal with the Dems (who currently hold serve in the Senate), to get these bigger issues take care of he'll do it. Our gun rights just might be collateral damage - a risk he is willing to take.

I haven't written specifically about this before, but I have alluded to it. If BHO wins, it's not necessarily the end of the world for gun rights. When he was elected, I saw a galvanization among gun owners like I have not seen before. If you think about it, there wasn't much chirping about whether we really needed "assault weapons" or what the definition of "standard" vs. "high capacity" magazines are. We knew we had to fight and win at all costs - and we did. We did not give one freakin' inch and we won. If Romney gets in, the whole triangulation schemes will start. With Obama in office, he will be met with a tsunami of opposition that he will be hard pressed to ignore.

Bill, I know you asked a simple question. But I thought I needed to give a more detailed answer, so I apologize for the length. I know you will not be happy with my decision, but I have to be honest with you and stand by my principles. I told Michael Bane in a PM that I will "not get in the car" to go along for the ride. I will walk home, even alone, if necessary.

[Solus]

I have been a Card Carrying and Dues Paying member of the Libertarian Party for over 21 years.

While I don't agree with 100% of the Libertarian Party platform it is close.  I do believe that the principals of Libertarian Party are closer to the principals our Constitution was founded upon than what either the Democratic Party or Republican Party have to offer...by a very large margin.  In general both of those parties are working against the our country.

In those 21 years I have voted for the Libertarian Presidential candidate 19 times.  The two other votes were for George W. in  his first election and for McCain in BHO's first election.  

Both of those times I felt the threat of a continued Clinton administration with the election of Gore and the election of BHO, whom I saw as the biggest threat to our way of life during my lifetime overwhelmed the benefits of voting Libertarian.  Both of those times I voted Republican as the lesser of two evils...and by far the lesser where BHO is involved.

Even though the chance of a Libertarian victory was slight during the years I voted Libertarian, it was not a wasted vote because it aided the party in getting ballot access in the years following and it did help the "numbers".

I hear folks talk about how bad the RINOs are and how poor a job the Republican Party does after being elected, but they still vote republican...thinking, maybe, that doing the same thing over and over will have different results.

I see the Libertarian party as the only way to get this country back on track.  The differences I have with them are only a small part of their platform, all be it some major issues for me...and for other non-Libertarians here.  

This year will be the third year I do not vote for the Libertarian Presidential Candidate.  While I think Gary Johnson is the best hope of getting our country repaired, I will vote for the Republican candidate, who, it appears, will be Romney, and has the best chance of defeating BHO.  It is not that I don't believe the Republicans are as bad for the country as the Democrats, I just think the Republicans are doing it slower.

The point is that, while I believe the Libertarian Party is our best chance of repairing our "Ship of State", I think it will not happen this election and I fear that another term of BHO will leave that Ship at the bottom of the bay and far more likely irreversibly beyond repair.

Perhaps if we weather this storm, it will be the time to stand on principal, but, for me, I'll reach for the life preserver I have available.

[tt11758]

I have been a Card Carrying and Dues Paying member of the Libertarian Party for over 21 years.

While I don't agree with 100% of the Libertarian Party platform it is close.  I do believe that the principals of Libertarian Party are closer to the principals our Constitution was founded upon than what either the Democratic Party or Republican Party have to offer...by a very large margin.  In general both of those parties are working against the our country.

In those 21 years I have voted for the Libertarian Presidential candidate 19 times.  The two other votes were for George W. in  his first election and for McCain in BHO's first election.  

Both of those times I felt the threat of a continued Clinton administration with the election of Gore and the election of BHO, whom I saw as the biggest threat to our way of life during my lifetime overwhelmed the benefits of voting Libertarian.  Both of those times I voted Republican as the lesser of two evils...and by far the lesser where BHO is involved.

Even though the chance of a Libertarian victory was slight during the years I voted Libertarian, it was not a wasted vote because it aided the party in getting ballot access in the years following and it did help the "numbers".

I hear folks talk about how bad the RINOs are and how poor a job the Republican Party does after being elected, but they still vote republican...thinking, maybe, that doing the same thing over and over will have different results.

I see the Libertarian party as the only way to get this country back on track.  The differences I have with them are only a small part of their platform, all be it some major issues for me...and for other non-Libertarians here.  

This year will be the third year I do not vote for the Libertarian Presidential Candidate.  While I think Gary Johnson is the best hope of getting our country repaired, I will vote for the Republican candidate, who, it appears, will be Romney, and has the best chance of defeating BHO.  It is not that I don't believe the Republicans are as bad for the country as the Democrats, I just think the Republicans are doing it slower.

The point is that, while I believe the Libertarian Party is our best chance of repairing our "Ship of State", I think it will not happen this election and I fear that another term of BHO will leave that Ship at the bottom of the bay and far more likely irreversibly beyond repair.

Perhaps if we weather this storm, it will be the time to stand on principal, but, for me, I'll reach for the life preserver I have available.

Well put.