These Idiots Are Going To Get Someone Killed !

[bafsu92]

It just proves that any douche off the street who happens to have a little military experience (or not) can open up a "training school". Do your research before spending money anywhere. I did some research into this G1 Tactical Solutions and Chris Collins. This school is in the Philippines. I doubt they'd last a month pulling bullshit like this in the states. They're training contractors and a'holes like this are a big reason why I stopped working foreign contracts. You run into people with this kind of "training" too often now.

Everybody wants that paycheck. Unfortunately for every good instructor or school there are at least 3 who are totally unqualified. Thankfully at least most of those operate much more safely than this. My company runs similar drills to those all the time, the only difference is we use paintball to do it. Additionally we train together at least once a month, not students who just showed up that weekend. Anybody stupid enough to stand down range next to a live fire target deserves to get shot. "Trust your partner" my ass.

[fightingquaker13]

It just proves that any douche off the street who happens to have a little military experience (or not) can open up a "training school". Do your research before spending money anywhere. I did some research into this G1 Tactical Solutions and Chris Collins. This school is in the Philippines. I doubt they'd last a month pulling bullshit like this in the states. They're training contractors and a'holes like this are a big reason why I stopped working foreign contracts. You run into people with this kind of "training" too often now.

Everybody wants that paycheck. Unfortunately for every good instructor or school there are at least 3 who are totally unqualified. Thankfully at least most of those operate much more safely than this. My company runs similar drills to those all the time, the only difference is we use paintball to do it. Additionally we train together at least once a month, not students who just showed up that weekend. Anybody stupid enough to stand down range next to a live fire target deserves to get shot. "Trust your partner" my ass.

Gee, common sense, they ought to try that. I'm not an operator, but I am a teacher. Here is one thing I know, if you want to really teach/test someone, you test to fail. See how much someone can do before they screw up, and then use that failure point to teach them those things they have demonstrated they don't know. It works great in the classroom and I would guess with paintballs. Live fire? Not so much. Teach folks to deal with incoming where they get splatted and you can do a debrief and everyone learns what went wrong and why. Do it with live ammo? Someone is going to jail and someone is going to the ER. What possible good can this do? Simulating a dangerous situation by creating a dangerous situation makes no sense to me.
FQ13 who thinks rule number one of SD is to avoid getting shot at, eg, avoid this school.

[Ping]

Yep. Absolute f**ktards in my opinion.

[AE3007H1]

I am only playing devil's advocate here. 

The only thing that I can say "giving the benefit of the doubt" is that noticing the orange mag plates maybe they are using blanks?....  All of his mags sport the orange plate.  So maybe  this is training/non-lethal/blank ammo.. 

Thoughts?

[bafsu92]

They may be using some type of training round like wax rounds or simunition. You can see hits on the target. Either way it depicts a very irresponsible way to train, especially without some type of disclaimer on the video. I hate disclaimers but if some teenagers watch this youtube video and duplicate this "training" and get killed these ass clowns should be liable.

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[fightingquaker13]

They may be using some type of training round like wax rounds or simunition. You can see hits on the target. Either way it depicts a very irresponsible way to train, especially without some type of disclaimer on the video. I hate disclaimers but if some teenagers watch this youtube video and duplicate this "training" and get killed these ass clowns should be liable.

You mean like Tex Griebner?
FQ13

[AE3007H1]

haha, yea "my training took over... I called my parents!" hahaha

[billt]

Notice James Yeager quit trying to defend his foolish "down range" training after a photographer got shot ?

Tom, do you have a link for this? I ask because this is the first time I heard someone was actually shot in one of his "training" sessions.

[philw]

Tom, do you have a link for this? I ask because this is the first time I heard someone was actually shot in one of his "training" sessions.

I can not recall someone actuly getting shot  however saw this
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2011/08/22/tactical-response-training-try-not-to-shoot-the-photographer/

[billt]

"We've always been kind of controversial as far as safety goes"

Yeah, I guess.  

Next to the Cris Collins video, that is without question one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. As was said, the camera could have been mounted on a tripod and fired by remote control, and gotten the same photographs and video. Why would anyone do something so stupid and foolish?

"True safety does not exist"

While that may be true in a philosophical sense, he sure tries his best to make absolutely sure it doesn't! His "response" to the first video was nothing more than a lot of foolish excuses for allowing something so stupid to deliberately take place. Trying to compare the danger of driving a car on a highway, to shooting with someone so close to the point of impact, for no good reason other then to snap a photo, or get some video is total nonsense. Especially when it is not even necessary.

I'm really not liking what I'm seeing with a lot of these so called "professional trainers". Taking foolish risks with firearms when there is little to no reward, is just plain nuts. I can't believe his insurance carrier, (if he even has one), would tolerate such a thing so outright stupid. That's a six or seven digit lawsuit just waiting to happen.