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tombogan03884

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Re: New Iranian Suicide Idea! - Threatening the US
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2012, 08:18:55 PM »
Just shoot the quite spot.

TW, it was actually the support of the black troopers of the 10th US Calvary (Buffalo Soldiers) that gave Teddy his hill.
It was actually "Kettle Hill".
Just like at Bunker Hill, which was fought on Breed's Hill, the historians screwed it up.
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Re: New Iranian Suicide Idea! - Threatening the US
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2012, 10:30:10 PM »
I remember back when Regan was Pres.

Some country, maybe Libya, had a couple of their aircraft come aggressively close to a US War Ship.  

They got shot down and Regan wasn't informed of the incident till he was up and having his morning coffee.

When the media asked if he was displeased with the Commander for taking that action and for not being informed about it immediately, Regan responded that the Commander did exactly what the situation called for by SOP.  There was no need for them to trouble me when they were just doing their jobs.

Same should  happen in this situation.  

According to wikipedia it happened in 1981 and again in 1989. 

Why does the Libyan Navy have glass-bottomed boats? So they can see the Libyan Air Force.  ;D
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Re: New Iranian Suicide Idea! - Threatening the US
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2012, 10:43:39 PM »
Thing is, the Libyans were occasionally stupid, but not crazy. The Iranians are the opposite. They are smart enough to know they can't win, but they might be too crazy to care. :-\
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Re: New Iranian Suicide Idea! - Threatening the US
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2012, 01:57:08 AM »
They don't really have the Navy to go toe to toe with us, but they are the largest in the region.  All they'd need to do is sink a tanker or, God forbid, warship in the right spot and try getting your shipping in or out.  It's only 50-75 meters deep in the Strait.

Agreed,
One doesnt really need to have "the navy" to cause serious harm, remember the USS Cole? All that took was a dedicated dipshit and a fast speedboat.

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Re: New Iranian Suicide Idea! - Threatening the US
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2012, 11:00:34 AM »
Agreed,
One doesnt really need to have "the navy" to cause serious harm, remember the USS Cole? All that took was a dedicated dipshit and a fast speedboat.



From what I read, the attack of the Cole was the end event in a Keystone Cops type of plan.

From what I remember it took several tries to pull it off.

First try, the boat was to small and it sank or swamped before it got far from shore.

Second attempt, they got a bigger boat, but the pilot fell asleep and did not make the rendezvous with the explosives.

Third attempt was successful....

I seem to remember more attempts were made, but can't recall how they failed.

The Cole wasn't the ship they were going for on the failed attempts...it just happened to be the one in port when they got their act together.

 
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Re: New Iranian Suicide Idea! - Threatening the US
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tombogan03884

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Re: New Iranian Suicide Idea! - Threatening the US
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2012, 11:05:28 AM »
Solus, Sledge misspoke. He was referring to the USS Stark incident.
You are correct that the Cole attack was a Cluster F**k that would have gotten some of it's participants killed even if it hadn't been a suicide attack.

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Re: New Iranian Suicide Idea! - Threatening the US
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2012, 11:24:40 AM »
Just shoot the quiet spot.

You know it ain't that easy Tom! 

The Kitty Hawk had a Chinese diesel boat pop up in the middle of the battle group a few years back.  It made quite a stir in the IUSS world!

Normally there are at least one or two LA class fast attack boats with a battle group!  Even they missed it!

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Re: New Iranian Suicide Idea! - Threatening the US
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2012, 11:38:12 AM »
Why does this threat remind me of the following story:

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Iranian Air Defense Radar: 'Unknown aircraft at (location unknown), you are in Iranian airspace. Identify yourself.'

Aircraft: 'This is a United States aircraft. I am not in Iranian airspace, I am in Iraqi airspace.'

Iranian Air Defense Radar: 'You are in Iranian airspace. If you do not depart our airspace we will launch interceptor aircraft!'

Aircraft: 'This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!'

To anyone that questions why we should be concerned about Iran having nuclear power I point out the fact that the U.S. military is in international waters protecting not only our own commercial interests but also the commercial interests of many nations.  A power with access to nuclear weapons making this kind of threat should be a concern to all people of this world!
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Re: New Iranian Suicide Idea! - Threatening the US
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2012, 11:55:00 AM »
To anyone that questions why we should be concerned about Iran having nuclear power I point out the fact that the U.S. military is in international waters protecting not only our own commercial interests but also the commercial interests of many nations.  A power with access to nuclear weapons making this kind of threat should be a concern to all people of this world!

Well put Mike!

tombogan03884

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Re: New Iranian Suicide Idea! - Threatening the US
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2012, 01:11:38 PM »
Why does this threat remind me of the following story:

To anyone that questions why we should be concerned about Iran having nuclear power I point out the fact that the U.S. military is in international waters protecting not only our own commercial interests but also the commercial interests of many nations.  A power with access to nuclear weapons making this kind of threat should be a concern to all people of this world!

The difference is that when that story was first heard we had a President who was a former AF pilot and a citizen of the US.
We currently have a shmuck with no military experience who is a "citizen of the world".

 

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