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Re: State Of The Union? Or The Care Bears.....Author Has A Point
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012, 10:46:26 AM »
Not only has the man failed in all of his campaign promises, he's not come up with anything new since he took office.  His economic recovery was put on the back burner while he "made history" and gave Pelosi some chick wood with Obamacare!  He should have been focused then on what he's rehashing today!

Oh and BTW, it's all Bush's fault, don't worry about the foreign guy with his hand up my ass making my lips move!  Move on, there's nothing to see here....once we get our "fair share" out of the wealthy, we can pay Mrs. Johnsons rent and welfare for her 16 children from 10 fathers...

Kiss my butt Mr. President!

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One of the clips on Yahoo last night started with him ranting about all the jobs lost before he took office and the jobs lost after he took office but before his policies came into play.  That is the point where he went off about saving the auto industry.  Sorry to point this out to you Mr. President, but you have been in the Oval Office for three years this week.  You can no longer blame others for the situation we are in today!  There are many campaign promises you made that not only got you in office but also bought you that Peace Prize, and you renigged on nearly everyone of them.  Not that I agreed with you on those promises, but your political gamesmanship and lies sicken me.  I would still be mad, but I would be more accepting if you had actually done what you said you were going to do when you bought your job.
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Re: State Of The Union? Or The Care Bears.....Author Has A Point
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012, 10:47:13 AM »
Did anyone catch the statement "I will continue to do whatever is necessary (including circumvent Congress and the Constitution) to get things done!"?

From the transcript...

The point is, we should all want a smarter, more effective Government. And while we may not be able to bridge our biggest philosophical differences this year, we can make real progress. With or without this Congress, I will keep taking actions that help the economy grow.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/24/transcript-obamas-2012-state-union/#ixzz1kUOuVUmG

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Re: State Of The Union? Or The Care Bears.....Author Has A Point
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2012, 11:06:12 AM »
From the transcript...

The point is, we should all want a smarter, more effective Government. And while we may not be able to bridge our biggest philosophical differences this year, we can make real progress. With or without this Congress, I will keep taking actions that help the economy grow.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/24/transcript-obamas-2012-state-union/#ixzz1kUOuVUmG


In real Chicago Ghetto Speak that we all know he wants to use:  F the system and bend over!  I am going to do whatever I want regardless of what your constitution* says!

* Lowercase c because that is how he views that piece of paper  >:(
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Re: State Of The Union? Or The Care Bears.....Author Has A Point
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 11:34:56 AM »
In real Chicago Ghetto Speak that we all know he wants to use:  F the system and bend over!  I am going to do whatever I want regardless of what your constitution* says!

* Lowercase c because that is how he views that piece of paper  >:(

Yes, we are well and truly f*@ked if this socialist gets re-elected! 

Remember the Senate and House as well, there once was a triangle of Government in the country.  At the moment the SCOTUS is semi-stable! 

Absolute equal powers under the law!

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Re: State Of The Union? Or The Care Bears.....Author Has A Point
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2012, 12:00:14 PM »
I need Mr. Bogan to chime in on this one:  We are supposed to have three branches of government - Executive, Legislative, and Judicial.  They are supposed to be equal in power.  The Executive can issue orders, but the Legislative can undo them; the Legislative passes Bills and the Executive can sign or veto, but the Legislative can override the veto; and the Judicial can overturn anything either of the other two do, but nobody can undo what the Judicial does.  How is this three equal branches of government?
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Re: State Of The Union? Or The Care Bears.....Author Has A Point
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Re: State Of The Union? Or The Care Bears.....Author Has A Point
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2012, 02:09:01 PM »
In the days before activist judges and Presidential decrees, Congress originated legislation, the President either signed it or vetoed it subject to Congressional over ride and the House had the power of the Purse.
The SCOTUS could veto any law they found unconstitutional, like some of FDR's "New Deal measures, but they could not originate anything.
Now however, we have the President issuing edicts from on high, SCOTUS won't rule on anything that has not been challenged through the state and federal courts, and congress has not passed the required budget in 3 years.

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Re: State Of The Union? Or The Care Bears.....Author Has A Point
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2012, 02:23:09 PM »
It it not also true that the SCOTUS cannot decide to challenge a law Congress has passed unless it's first brought through the lower courts? 

True SCOTUS powers were not identified by anything more than whats delineated in the Article, further powers were outlined in the early 1800's and are the only branch of government that is allowed, by law, to interpret the Constitution and the legality of laws passed by the Congress.

The Constitution IS Law and the SCOTUS determines what laws are valid based on that.

Listening to FQ spout on about foreign law and the Magna Carta is merely his, and most "scholars", opinions!

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Re: State Of The Union? Or The Care Bears.....Author Has A Point
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2012, 02:34:36 PM »
Here is what the Constitution says about it.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

Article III - The Judicial Branch Note

Section 1 - Judicial powers

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

Section 2 - Trial by Jury, Original Jurisdiction, Jury Trials

(The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party; to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.) (This section in parentheses is modified by the 11th Amendment.)

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.

Section 3 - Treason Note

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Amendment 11 - Judicial Limits. Ratified 2/7/1795. Note History

The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.


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Re: State Of The Union? Or The Care Bears.....Author Has A Point
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2012, 04:26:27 PM »
Nice redux....

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/havent-we-heard_618462.html



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Re: State Of The Union? Or The Care Bears.....Author Has A Point
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2012, 05:23:29 PM »
Nice redux....

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/havent-we-heard_618462.html



I just try to think about my fishing lures until the noise stops....



He would give his opponents less ammunition if he just admitted it was his older brother's paper when he handed it in ... I mean that it was every speech he has already given rearranged.

I really shouldn't complain.  Just think of the economy of hiring a staff to write one speech, firing them, and then letting his little girls rearrange the ideas each year.  Pres. BHO is trying to reduce spending.
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