Bane will take a 9mm, Hawkfish a .40

[keithm]

I found the recoil in the Glock 23 to be very ... "snappy."  Not hard, not heavy, just.. very sharp and ... well.. snappy.  I had trouble with it getting back on target for quick follow-ups.  It was so bad for me, that I would find myself adjusting my grip between shots.  I'm sure that's indicative of a poor grip to begin with, which I hope I've since corrected.    Now having said all this, the Glock 23 is the only pistol I had that impression with.  And since it was my first .40, it steered me back to 9mm and .45, where I've stayed ever since.

Since then, I've shot Sigs, Berettas, Taurus... really all kinds of .40s.  That impression of snappy recoil hasn't been there.  So maybe I gave up on the caliber too quickly.

[ismram]

Just 40 and 9......................40 no question. I shoot out of non plastic guns. I have never had any problems with recoil with the 40. I have a couple of buddies, and we  shoot our personal protection rounds alot. There is nothing like praticing with full power loads for realism. Don't get me wrong I pratcice with bunny fart loads also. When we are shooting our full power protection loads at some of our heaver steel targets, the 40's allways knock them down. The 9's seldom do. I know that is not scientific but it does tell me something.

[Conagher 45]

9mm or .40 S&W    I would have to say I would take the 9 with Corbon ammo.  Almost 2 years ago the Marshal in a small town in our county had to shoot a shotgun weilding drunk that showed up at his soon-to-be ex-wife's apartmrnt. The drunk took 6 rounds of .40 cal in the stomach, front right hip and right lung (evidently the officer was looking at the shotgun and not the front sight) and was booked into the county jail about six weeks later after he was released from the hospital. In another case about 15 years ago a dirtbag that murdered a fellow LEO that was doing a follow up on a burglary case was put down with a 9mm HP round through his melon after a running gun fight through town. When I started in law enforcement the Mod. 66 was common place and the 586 or 686 was the one you wanted to carry with 158 gr. silvertips. Times have changed for sure but one thing remains the same, hitting your intended target with what you train with and shoot the best.

[tombogan03884]

9mm or .40 S&W    I would have to say I would take the 9 with Corbon ammo.  Almost 2 years ago the Marshal in a small town in our county had to shoot a shotgun weilding drunk that showed up at his soon-to-be ex-wife's apartmrnt. The drunk took 6 rounds of .40 cal in the stomach, front right hip and right lung (evidently the officer was looking at the shotgun and not the front sight) and was booked into the county jail about six weeks later after he was released from the hospital. In another case about 15 years ago a dirtbag that murdered a fellow LEO that was doing a follow up on a burglary case was put down with a 9mm HP round through his melon after a running gun fight through town. When I started in law enforcement the Mod. 66 was common place and the 586 or 686 was the one you wanted to carry with 158 gr. silvertips. Times have changed for sure but one thing remains the same, hitting your intended target with what you train with and shoot the best.

I'm don't have a dog in this fight as I shoot .45 or .357 by choice or whatever I'm handed otherwise, but I have to point out that 6 .500 S&W rounds to the stomache will not be as immidiatly effective as 1 .380 to the head. This example says less about the effectivness of the rounds than it does about the training of the Officers involved.

[Conagher 45]

Just had to be 9mm or .40 S&W could not even think about my beloved 1911 or 45 XD Tactical.............. Just 9mm or 40 cal.

[Sponsor]

[Conagher 45]

I'm don't have a dog in this fight as I shoot .45 or .357 by choice or whatever I'm handed otherwise, but I have to point out that 6 .500 S&W rounds to the stomache will not be as immidiatly effective as 1 .380 to the head. This example says less about the effectivness of the rounds than it does about the training of the Officers involved.

Yes I do agree with that. I have had limited expirence with .40 and have spent more time working with 9mm .357 and .45 ACP. I would have assumed that 6 .40 caliber holes would have done more damage than it did, but in this case it just wasn't this guys time to go, he is doing 10 years in prison first.

[ismram]

You guys do know that you can get +P in 40s&w also don't you?     http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm#40sw I have some of this, and bellive me you don't want to be on the recieving end of any of this stuff!!!

[tombogan03884]

You guys do know that you can get +P in 40s&w also don't you?     http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm#40sw I have some of this, and bellive me you don't want to be on the recieving end of any of this stuff!!!

  Maybe it's just me, but I don't want to "be on the recieving end" of a .22 short. 

[Conagher 45]

  Maybe it's just me, but I don't want to "be on the recieving end" of a .22 short. 

No me either not even a .22 CB cap !!!

[ismram]

  Maybe it's just me, but I don't want to "be on the recieving end" of a .22 short. 

You know, I have too agree with you there!