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9mm vs. .40S&W, and a response
« on: February 28, 2012, 08:01:58 PM »
I read MB's blog about the .40 S&W and decided to weigh in on my blog so I have included a link.
I'm not trying to dis Mike, I like Mike and respect his opinions, but I have been hearing a lot on this subject recently and some of it is from outright crackheads.


http://warhawkeishere.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/in-defense-of-the-40-sw/
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Re: 9mm vs. .40S&W, and a response
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 08:28:34 PM »
I just about spewed into my keyboard, and have only gotten through the first 2 or 3 paragraphs.......
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Re: 9mm vs. .40S&W, and a response
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 08:32:57 PM »
Ironically, Warhawke, I agree with everything you say!

It's sort of, "You pays your money and you takes your chances." There was a big noise outside my house a couple of nights ago, and I went straight to the 12 gauge...did not pass go, did not collect $200. It was a raccoon, so it got a pass, but handguns do suck and there are no magic bullets

I think in the end you make your bet based on your own beliefs...my plan is lots of bullets...your mileage may very.

VERY good post, though!

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Re: 9mm vs. .40S&W, and a response
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2012, 08:52:18 PM »
Ah the ol' 9mm vs. 40 S&W thread,....

I bought my first semi auto handgun in the early 90's...A S&W Model 411 in .40....Yes it had the Clintonista mag disconnect...However, I have noticed history and trends,, and offer a few observations regardless of brand.

The Glock 22 is still one of the hottest sellers on the pistol market. (It's .40)
The M&P line of .40 has been incorporated in too many LEO/SHP, etc,.. agencies to count.
The .40 incorporates a high capacity platform with ballistics better than a 9mm (still a shortened down .38),...

I also own a couple of 9's,...as ammo had to catch up to get better over the years. But so did the .380 and even the .327.

Regardless, (and the .45 crowd, of which I own a couple also aside),....there are more .40's in LE agencies than 9's....

For those that cannot afford a quiver of a 9 this day, or a .45 that day, or a .40 on Sunday, or a .357 on Tues,..the .40 was designed specifically because it addressed the shortcomings of a 9mm....

Too many criminals in prison BRAG about there gunshot scars with a 9....

The same cannot be said about the .40....(reminder,,,I own and practice with a multitude of calibers).

and I am reminded of the old addage:

"Professionals argue tactics. -- Amateurs argue caliber."
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P.S. My leetle Kel-Tec P3AT is a bad momma-jomma at close range also....

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Re: 9mm vs. .40S&W, and a response
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 09:04:33 PM »

"You pays your money and you takes your chances."

Yep, one size does not fit all.  While it is a caliber issue, it's really more of a gun issue.   Which gun will serve best the expected encounter?
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Re: 9mm vs. .40S&W, and a response
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2012, 09:04:56 PM »
I more or less agree with MB, ( especially about the "good post" part )
I posted a comment to say that for individuals, regardless of the technical bs they use to dress it up, the ultimate deciding factor will be personal preference.
The thing that makes any bullet effective is hits, so the best option is to practice with what you've got.
Warhawk makes the point in his first paragraph that no matter what pistol you use it is a compromise so there is no "best" pistol caliber.
We've all heard the story about the old Lady who killed a bear with a .22, it wasn't the best choice, but, she made do with what she had, and only comes with practice.

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Re: 9mm vs. .40S&W, and a response
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2012, 11:19:02 PM »
F#%K it! I am switching to a one man mortar team.  ;D I will be able to take out a bear, a house or a vehicle. I watch my kids do it all the time on "Battlefield 3" on Playstation. And I am going to get a Crossbreed holster that fits the mortar. LOL

I like all rounds above .380. But even a .22 serves a purpose. Carry what you can handle. As for me and my house, I will carry a .45 ACP. May have to sell the Jeep to get more ammo, but I will survive.

PS: Great article Warhawke. Sorry Mr. Bane, I did not read the blog yet.

PSS: Hope you never get a chronic, arthritic condition of the humor us bone.

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Re: 9mm vs. .40S&W, and a response
« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2012, 03:57:24 AM »
When you are within spiting distance of a tragedy like the school shooting in Chardon Ohio you get too much info too quickly!  I haven't heard anything to the contrary, but I haven't listened too closely, so I will say, the last I heard, that 3 young lives were taken by a shooter with a .22!!!  Enough said.

God Bless them and their families,

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Re: 9mm vs. .40S&W, and a response
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 10:13:59 AM »
I carry 40 in my p250 for CC.  I also have a 9mm kit for cheap practicing.

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Re: 9mm vs. .40S&W, and a response
« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2012, 10:16:21 AM »
What matters isn't how many died after being shot with any caliber, but how soon they were stopped after getting shot.
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