As I Predicted,...Just Waiting On The Riots....

[philw]

I am
Not racist,
Not violent,
Just not silent anymore...

Im not racist,biased or sexist.........I hate everyone equally that way there are no complaints!

[twyacht]

It's also the 20 year anniversary of the L.A. Riots....Seems one particular ethnic group decided that "governing" involved burning privately owned businesses, committing numerous assaults, including Reginald Denny, who should have come out of his truck with a Glock 19.

Millions of dollars in damage and carnage,....Oh, and than there is Hurricane Katrina....While many blacks were heroic and honorable attempting to save lives and keep the peace, a number in the thousands decided to help themselves to whatever they could get a hold of and steal in what Mayor Nagan called a "chocolate city".....

Allen West, Bill Cosby, Thomas Sowell, and other black scholars, even acknowledge the majority of problems in black communities with Baby Daddy's, and record unemployment among blacks, generational welfare, and chronic poverty is not whitey's fault....

I respectfully disagree Ulmus, I think you missed the point. The residents of Detroit may have had a stretch of "peaceful" and "prosperous" times, but that was long ago, and now the city is a broken shell and an impoverished failure of what it used to be.

Simple question,,,,When were the last White started riots?

From my own personal exp. the Liberty City riots here in Miami, were exclusively black neighborhoods, they burned their own shops and stores and restaurants, looted from their neighbors, while the surrounding areas were left untouched...

Liberty City is a neighborhood in Miami, Florida, United States. The area is roughly bound by NW 79th Street to the north, NW 27th Avenue to the west, the Airport Expressway (SR 112) to the south, and Interstate 95 to the east. The Miami neighborhood is home to one of the largest concentrations of black Americans in South Florida, as of 2000 Census.[1][2]

Crime grew prevalent in the increasingly poverty-stricken area in the immediate post-Civil Rights era of the 1960s and 1970s. The ensuing problems of the poor and disenfranchised grew most apparent and notable in race riots which occurred in Liberty City in August 1968 during the Republican National Convention in Miami Beach, and in 1980 following the acquittal of police officers charged with the killing Arthur McDuffie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_City

It was a growing region in the 50's,....and collapsed when left to its own governance.....It's still a slum and a ghetto..

[tombogan03884]

Immigrants came to America in waves, they landed in the slums and moved upward and out ward from there.
Many "ghetto" areas have gone from Irish to Italian to Jewish.
They move up in the world and move on.
Blacks on the other hand move in and stay.
If they do leave they take the "slum" with them.
It is a historic fact that when blacks begin displacing another group in a slum property values and tax revenue drop.
What does it say about a group when they downgrade the slums  of a city ?

[Ulmus]

Hey Tommy, learn to spell my name right. 

Again your last post points to not caring about what "government" it is because,  "Blacks on the other hand move in and stay.
If they do leave they take the "slum" with them"

Bull Shit.

I've seen the "all white" suburbs of my childhood now having a good mix of both blacks and whites and you know what?  They are still clean, prosperous, and as low crime as they were as a child.

[tombogan03884]

Hey Tommy, learn to spell my name right. 

Again your last post points to not caring about what "government" it is because,  "Blacks on the other hand move in and stay.
If they do leave they take the "slum" with them"

Bull Shit.

I've seen the "all white" suburbs of my childhood now having a good mix of both blacks and whites and you know what?  They are still clean, prosperous, and as low crime as they were as a child.

Yes Ulmus, there are fine , successful black INDIVIDUALS, like Thomas Sowell, Bill Cosby and Herman Cain.
As a group however they are incapable of civilized government.
I challenge you to name one nation governed peacefully, fairly, and prosperously by blacks.

You want to call me a "race baiter" because I retain the history I've read ?
Put up or shut up.

My challenge stands.
You can't answer it.

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[Ulmus]

I got two for you, my friend.

The Bahamas

The United States of America.

[tombogan03884]

I got two for you, my friend.

The Bahamas

The United States of America.

Apparently Ulmus doesn't stay very well informed.
The US ?

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/occupy-may-day-mostly-quiet-160849836.html

The prosperity isn't there either.

[twyacht]

The Bahamas? Outside of the tourist areas, any decent Bahamian Cab driver will refuse to take tourists to the "other" areas of the island...

Outside of Freeport, Nassau, Paradise Island, the larger urban areas are set up in zones. The cruise ship and tourist shops, golf courses, restaurants, bars and island art, and coastal areas for charter fishing, etc,....

The inner cities, are strictly off limits, or at your own peril.... Next time your down there ask any cabby to take you to the east side of Freeport to a pool hall called Tobie's.... You'll get talked out of it....

Jamaica is the same way. Moreover, if your there to work, like I do on occasion in the marine industry, we can't even bring our own tools and Fluke meters, as customs will make them disappear. Yacht Captains don't want the locals working on their stuff
and we have to go down as "tourists"....not technicians....Trinidad and Tobago are even worse...

[Ulmus]

The bahamas can bring in lots of tourists and businesses from the tourist industry.  I went on a tour of the Bahmas driven by a guy named Perry.  The first thing he showed us was the "Slums".  He pointed out all the satellite diahes on the houses and explained the  low crime rate there.  Later on he showed my wife and I the Atlantis resort where a south african coumpany had bought the place and sank in over $200 MILLION dollars in renovations to it.

That's a lot of money to put in an area and if the government wasn't stable, secure, and prosperous for business, the company would've gone elsewhere.

Even today they are still making priofits in that country with little to no natural resources and not heavy industry besides tourism.  Unlike the predominantly white Dutch government.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133867/Dutch-government-collapses-level-budget-cuts-talks-fail-Prime-Minister-quits-failure-bring-national-debt.html#ixzz1t3yPS2pX

As for the US.  We have less unemployment than Spain even when adjusted for those who gave up  (11%-12% hell I'll even go 15% compared to 24.4%)  Our dollar is more secure than the euro.  And high priced items like the Jeep Grand Cherokee are in such high demand that Chryslter has cancellled the annual two week shut down to play catch up instead.  It's all a matter of perspective isn't it.

Now @ Twyacht

We should also look at all the other riots that have gone on in recent times due to nothing more than those cities winning sporting events.

Case in point Detroit, 1984.  The Tigers win the world series and the fans all file out and tear the place apart.  They toss over cop cars and light them up.  Lots of white people caused that riot.  Blacks as well.
Same can be said for other large cities as well as college towns too.  Mainly of white persuasion when it comes to the college towns.

Riots usually happen because of one of two things.  Drunkenss or Rage. 
Remember this post?  http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=19336.0
There you commend these peopple for their civil unrest against what they percieved as tyrrany.  How are these other riots not a result of percieved tyranny against the local government there?  The actions and results may be different, but the flash cause is the same.

Now to bring up why I come on so strong against these types of posts.

First of all, while this back and forth has been between me and Tombogan03884 and now you Twyacht, it's to get the attention of everyone here.

We are forgetting why we are here.  We are here to enjoy, encourage, and expand shooting and all things surrounding it.  By posting on this forum and any other firearm forum we have become ambassadors to the cause.  We need to make sure that new people lurking around feel welcome to join here.  That means every firearm owner or future owner.  Regardless of their race, creed, color, sexual preference, or political belief.

I want you guys to listen to something.  It'll take roughly 5 minutes to listen to.  Here's the link:

http://gunrightsradio.com/blog/2012/04/27/bar-stool-discussion-live-041/

Put it at the 45 minute mark and listen until roughly the 50 minute mark.

They guy makes a serious point.  How many brothers and sisters of another caliber are we losing when all they see are posts like this one insinuating that minorities can not run a government because they are too stupid?  Or that they are too violent?  Or that they are all racists?  Or that they are the destroyers of morailty?

How many feel that these posts lump them all into one group and are only singled out when called on it?

How many potential customers does Michael Bane lose due to these posts.  How many fellow firearm owners have we lost due to percieved hatred and biggotry?

There are better ways to make your point.  Instead of making it sound like all people of a type are the cuase of anger and stryfe, you can point out that its the usual extremist group of a given population that is causing the problem and then point out the other people in the group that disagree with them.

Instead of saying a group can't run a government, you can point out the ones that are doing good in their prospective elected positions.  Judges, representtives, counsel members, ect..

And do you really think the majority of Democrats in office really give a damn about gun control?  No!  They only follow what the numbers tell them about their constituants. 

We bring the Democratic gun owners in and make an honest long term investment to make them equals among us.  You'll see the whole gun control crap go by the wayside. 

Politicians want one of two things:
1 to be re-elected
2 to serve their constituants - if they are that rare breed.

The greedy ones that want to be re-elected will do whatever it takes to get money and support.  If that means backing pro gun legislation, they'll do it while kissing a baby.

So the chooice is yours.

We can continue on like we're doing now and weaken ourselves and our cause; or we can be true ambasadors and take the high road to immortality.

What's your choice?

[JRS]

^^this