Is this as stupid as it sounds ?

[Timothy]

The levels of the oceans are subjective at best.  Mean Sea Levels (MSL) are a product of a variation in tidal flows from mean high tide and mean low tides averaged.  Since the earth is a living thing, heaving, settling, cooling, growing hotter, shifting, pulsing and burping constantly, the levels of the land masses are shifting constantly as well. 

This is why these studies are all basically conjecture on the part of scientists that don't want their studies disputed by common sense!  These global warming guys are all thinking that if A occurs then B is the result!  They have an agenda and no other hypothesis is plausible in their over educated, ego maniacal world!

As the earths crust cools, the land sinks a bit!  Since the eastern seaboard is the elder brother to the west coast, it would stand to reason that is sinking at the same time the west coast is rising due to tectonic plates moving along the very active fault lines that cut through the western states.  Sure, we have seismic issues on the east coast too but not nearly as violent or catastrophic as the west.

Again, offered with no scientific evidence to support this information!  As Crusader suggested, most of this information is being dealt by questionable authority that has already been admonished by the scientific community.  They're a dedicated group who will not go away until they've given the earth back to the friggin dinosaurs!

[tombogan03884]

So basically it's like all the other Global warming BS.
Flawed and/or incomplete data presented in a prejudiced fashion.

[Timothy]

So basically it's like all the other Global warming BS.
Flawed and/or incomplete data presented in a prejudiced fashion.

Put it this way, several million years ago the high deserts of Arizona, New Mexico and other western states were underwater!  I dug sharks teeth out of anthills when I was kid on the high mesas outside of Albuquerque!  I may still have them...

It's all cyclical!  Did the land rise out of the oceans or did the oceans recede?  You'll get ten differing opinions from the 5 academics you find that give a shit!

[tombogan03884]

Years ago (2002 ? ) I was reading a copy of Popular Science.
There was an article saying that the world was ending we were going to all die because a Glacier in Greenland had receded 7 miles.
I didn't much care about "global warming" so I flipped the page to a more interesting article.
It told how Archeologists were making fantastic finds of Viking artifacts because a glacier in Greenland had receded 7 miles.
I had to flip back and check, sure enough, they were talking about the same glacier.
Global warming is BS.

[Timothy]

The reasons change with every graduating class!

One year it's methane from the cow farts, another it's CO2 emission, blah, blah, blah...I suggest it's just hot air from academia as they drink their French wine and debate the finer points of world domination!

[Sponsor]

[tombogan03884]

Academics have to much ego invested in their theories and computer models to allow interference from facts or reality.

[robheath]

All I know is that here on the gulf coast we have about a 3 foot tide on average.  While in Port Everett their was a 10 foot tide almost every day.

[deepwater]

All I know is that here on the gulf coast we have about a 3 foot tide on average.  While in Port Everett their was a 10 foot tide almost every day.

Pacific coast of Panama has about 18 foot tidal range (average) that comes and goes twice a day. Atlantic side has about 2 or 3 feet. separated by a narrow isthmus.
yes, water does some strange things, Gore does stranger things.

[JoeG]

The levels of the oceans are subjective at best.  Mean Sea Levels (MSL) are a product of a variation in tidal flows from mean high tide and mean low tides averaged.  Since the earth is a living thing, heaving, settling, cooling, growing hotter, shifting, pulsing and burping constantly, the levels of the land masses are shifting constantly as well. 

This is why these studies are all basically conjecture on the part of scientists that don't want their studies disputed by common sense!  These global warming guys are all thinking that if A occurs then B is the result!  They have an agenda and no other hypothesis is plausible in their over educated, ego maniacal world!

As the earths crust cools, the land sinks a bit!  Since the eastern seaboard is the elder brother to the west coast, it would stand to reason that is sinking at the same time the west coast is rising due to tectonic plates moving along the very active fault lines that cut through the western states.  Sure, we have seismic issues on the east coast too but not nearly as violent or catastrophic as the west.

Again, offered with no scientific evidence to support this information!  As Crusader suggested, most of this information is being dealt by questionable authority that has already been admonished by the scientific community.  They're a dedicated group who will not go away until they've given the earth back to the friggin dinosaurs!

You nailed it very well. I am an engineer with a MS in Env Science and have watched this BS for 25 years. This started out with a very poorly done paper imagining all the GW stuff based on a single graph that he later admitted was wrong. Ever since then every time someone pointed out a hole in this fantasy they add another layer of complexity and declare victory. The sad thing is now all the old timers who knew enough to doubt this have been chased out and you have a lot of true believers running all the agencies and schools.

I always get people who are shocked that I don't believe all this BS but I can never get them to understand that you simply can't model something as complex as global weather the way they are pretending to do it. You have to give them credit, they have stood science on its head and demand that people prove them wrong instead of their having to prove their theory right. Everybody just nods their heads.

It ain't science if all the facts agree on everything and that is all they let through any more. I haven't heard a benefit from GW in years. It make me cranky

[Timothy]

You nailed it very well. I am an engineer with a MS in Env Science and have watched this BS for 25 years.

Thanks Joe!  It really was a wild ass guess of what I know of geology!  I'm an uneducated fella, at least by most standards!  It's nice to know I actually hit the mark on occasion...

I do know that measurement from a moving target is virtually impossible.  Ergo, a moving landmass cannot be used as a fixed point of reference.