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Re: 'he's wearing body armor even if you had a gun you can't hurt him'
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2012, 08:26:31 AM »
Once we start off on the idea, does it really matter any more ?  ;D

ok  tombogan = target - who's got a good pitching arm
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Re: 'he's wearing body armor even if you had a gun you can't hurt him'
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2012, 08:50:14 AM »
ok  tombogan = target - who's got a good pitching arm

Throw more Brandy !


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Re: 'he's wearing body armor even if you had a gun you can't hurt him'
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2012, 09:07:39 AM »
maybe we need to do a Downrange Busters (knock off of mythbusters)- testing what kind of cans work best for a mobility kill

Dr Pepper
Coke
Pepsi
Rootbeer
those football size ice tea cans - mass - think .45 ACP
maybe those little energy drink cans - high capacity - think 9mm
frozen cans

who are we throwing cans at anyways ...   ;D

Wow!!!

Look how far ahead of us the Mayor of New York City is with his proposed ban on "large caliber" sodas.

We are so screwed when the Brady Campaign and their ilk can out guess us by months.
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Re: 'he's wearing body armor even if you had a gun you can't hurt him'
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2012, 11:57:35 AM »
The first thing I thought of when I heard about the shooting was this


I then began to wonder how I would have dealt with this situation. I have run it through my head several times and the answer is I don't know. What I do know is that everything discussed here and on the various MB productions would help give me a fighting chance. I know this to be true because it has already helped me.

I am not sure how many of you have been in a firearm self defense situation that listen to the MB podcast. I am a regular listener and when I was in my particular life and death situation, I swear I heard MB saying " GO TO THE GUN! " in my head. I went to the gun and it saved my life.

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Re: 'he's wearing body armor even if you had a gun you can't hurt him'
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2012, 12:20:49 PM »
maybe we need to do a Downrange Busters (knock off of mythbusters)- testing what kind of cans work best for a mobility kill

Dr Pepper
Coke
Pepsi
Rootbeer
those football size ice tea cans - mass - think .45 ACP
maybe those little energy drink cans - high capacity - think 9mm
frozen cans

who are we throwing cans at anyways ...   ;D

 ;D

I remembered this incident, but had to look it up to make sure:

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The Norman Transcript

February 24, 2011
Man fends off robber by throwing soup can

CNHI News Service
The Norman Transcript

METHUEN, Mass. — Reynaldo Cepeda had just cashed his tax refund check at Walmart when a man demanded his money.

After the attacker started punching him last weekend, Cepeda fought back and grabbed the closest thing he could find — a can of Campbell’s Chunky beef stew — to defend himself.

He flung the can at the alleged attacker’s head and James Egal, 28, of Dover, N.H., suffered a gash that required eight stitches to close. The throw was so hard that the can exploded when it struck Egal’s head.

“I don’t remember throwing it at him,” Cepeda said. “I remember hitting him with it.”

Egal, 28, had been standing behind Cepeda in the check cashing line. Egal had whispered something to two men and a woman, according to Cepeda. Moments later Cepeda was attacked.

During the fight, Cepeda said he thought about a friend who had been killed two days earlier. He said he decided he wouldn’t suffer the same fate. Cepeda said he kept saying to himself, “I’m not going to be a victim like my friend was.”

Egal was arrested in the emergency room at a local hospital and charged with unarmed robbery, assault and battery, and assault and battery on a police officer. He was released on $1,000 bond.

http://normantranscript.com/local/x1124267182/Man-fends-off-robber-by-throwing-soup-can/print

I seem to also remember an old lady doing the same thing to an attacker whom had broken in on her in her kitchen a few years ago.
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Re: 'he's wearing body armor even if you had a gun you can't hurt him'
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2012, 12:23:38 PM »
I guess if you can't go to the gun, go to the can!

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Re: 'he's wearing body armor even if you had a gun you can't hurt him'
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2012, 01:03:09 PM »
You do not have to be on the throne to get crowned  ;D

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Re: 'he's wearing body armor even if you had a gun you can't hurt him'
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2012, 01:15:02 PM »
I haven't heard an official reporting on the entire list, but with the latest description of what he was wearing added to earlier bits and pieces, the premise of this thread can go away.  The guy was wearing nothing more than a bunch of over the counter soft padding (tactical vest, hard hat of some type, knee and elbow pads, etc.). 

Open up and let him have it!
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Re: 'he's wearing body armor even if you had a gun you can't hurt him'
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2012, 01:18:47 PM »
I haven't heard an official reporting on the entire list, but with the latest description of what he was wearing added to earlier bits and pieces, the premise of this thread can go away.  The guy was wearing nothing more than a bunch of over the counter soft padding (tactical vest, hard hat of some type, knee and elbow pads, etc.). 

Open up and let him have it!

It loses its pertinence in this specific case, but it is still a relevant consideration with home invaders passing themselves off as SWAT teams, and other potential situations where a predator may be wearing armor.

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Re: 'he's wearing body armor even if you had a gun you can't hurt him'
« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2012, 01:24:33 PM »
It loses its pertinence in this specific case, but it is still a relevant consideration with home invaders passing themselves off as SWAT teams, and other potential situations where a predator may be wearing armor.

It is still pertinent in this case.  Had someone opened up on him it would have taken one hit to put him down for good.  The argument that he was wearing body armor so firearms would have not helped is a non-issue.

In the case of home invaders and fake officials I stand by my stance of don't worry about what they are wearing, and stop the threat!
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