'he's wearing body armor even if you had a gun you can't hurt him'

[Timothy]

In the case of home invaders and fake officials I stand by my stance of don't worry about what they are wearing, and stop the threat!

Seconded....thirded.....and fourthded...

I haven't been to a film in a few years and I don't know if our little local theater where I took my little girl to see the Fellowship of the Ring Trilogy is anti nor do I care.  That's where I'll be going in December to watch the Hobbit with her as well. 

I was armed then and I'll be armed in December because since I came back from CT in October, I haven't left the house without at least my .38.  The exception was Saturday when I went to CT for the night but I'll be rectifying that when I get my non-resident CC license in CT this fall.  After that, I'll only need RI and I don't think I'll bother!

[usmcdadx2]

To MB's point... assess, evaluate and if shooting is the action you believe you need to take, then go with "closest/best weapon on closest/best target". In most situations that is likely to be a center mass shot- vest or no vest.  I just talked to one of my acquaintances who took two .380 rounds to the chest(vest) while working drug interdiction in Broward Co several years ago. He says that even if he knows his opponent has a vest he is going with training and putting his first shots on center mass. His experience with being shot in the vest told him that even though he had entered a known probable deadly force situation; fully trained and full of adrenaline, the impact "of a couple of puny .380's" was enough to take his head out of the game for a moment" and had he not been blessed with a good cover officer he would not have had time to reorient before the bad guy finished him off. He says if it worked on him he expects it would apply to anyone he might have to shoot.

[tt11758]

Even when wearing kevlar, an incoming round is gonna feel like you've been hit by a fastball thrown by a major league pitcher.  In short, it's gonna hurt!!  And probably hurt enough to make you rethink your plans for the evening, especially if you find yourself being pelted by several of them in a short span of time.  There are even reports of broken ribs caused by the rounds impacting a kevlar vest.

[twyacht]

Just a reminder,.....all these multi-plex cinemas are gun free zones. Stickers with the pistol and line drawn through them. "Most" law-abiding citizens are just that, and will leave it home, or locked in the car.

HOWEVER, even in Colorado, right after this event, gun sales and CCW permit apps. are up over 40%.

So,,......It comes down to what percentage of "lawful" gun owners, defy the "official notice" and decide that their life, and families life, outweigh a potential "illegal" act if they are caught.

A few quotes come to mind for me:

"After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it."
William Burroughs

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." --Thomas Jefferson

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do."
Robert A. Heinlein

"I will not cede more power to the state. I will not willingly cede more power to anyone, not to the state, not to General Motors, not to the CIO. I will hoard my power like a miser, resisting every effort to drain it away from me. I will then use my power, as I see fit. I mean to live my life an obedient man, but obedient to God, subservient to the wisdom of my ancestors; never to the authority of political truths arrived at yesterday at the voting booth."
William F. Buckley Jr.

*****

[oldkat69]

  We will never know since nobody took a shot.

Just a note from Va. Tech.
Dr. Liviu Librescu  Holocaust Survivor
Unarmed he fought the creep at the door.
He died... but,
all but one of his students escaped and survived.

Why did a ten year old boy survive the horrors of a Nazi labor camp??

I guess we know now.

[Sponsor]

[Conagher 45]

This whole deal has me reassessing what I personally want for a pocket weapon. I was hot to trout for a S&W Sheild but a five shot S&W Model 60 in .357 magnum just might be in the very near future for me. Still have a few boxes of Winchester Silver Tips in my stockpile of ammo from when we carried 66's for a duty weapon and Cor-Bon make some really get carry ammo these days. Also my wife could handle it better than a semi auto handgun. Just thinking ahead for a change.