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That could be the fate of the Remington Arms Company plant in Ilion, New York, the economic lifeblood of the small New York town lying halfway between Albany and Syracuse. The company's roots in the town go back nearly 200 years, since Eliphalet Remington, Jr. forged his first rifle barrel there. Today the company employs about 1,000 workers in a town with a population of just over 8,000. But the company has suggested, none too subtly, that it may move its Ilion plant to another state if Gov. Andrew Cuomo and the state's lawmakers enact gun legislation now under consideration in Albany.

The same day Jackson's letter went out from Remington headquarters in Madison, North Carolina, Connecticut gun manufacturers held a press conference in Hartford to voice their opposition to similar legislation proposed in that state's General Assembly. Representatives of four Connecticut firms — Colt's Manufacturing Company, Marlin Firearms, O.F. Mossberg and Sons, and Sturm Ruger — and Smith & Wesson of Springfield, Massachusetts, gathered at the state capital, along with members of the National Shooting Sports Foundation in Newton, Connecticut, and the Connecticut Association of Firearms Retailers. Manufacturers, lawyers, and union and trade group representatives all took aim at Senate Bill 353, the microstamping mandate.       

"This feel-good legislation will do more harm than good," said Carlton Chen, vice president and general counsel with Colt. "Let us not make a mistake, with the unintended consequences of driving businesses and jobs out of Connecticut."

But, but, it's for the chiiiiiiiiildren!   ::)

I hope all gun manufactures refuse to sell to these states PDs if this crap passes.

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Re: Gun Makers May Leave if N.Y. and Conn. Pass Microstamping Laws
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2012, 08:30:45 PM »
Ruger has an advantage over the other companies in that a move would not effect their production, only business offices are in Conn. their manufacturing is located in NH and Az.

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Re: Gun Makers May Leave if N.Y. and Conn. Pass Microstamping Laws
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2012, 08:42:47 PM »
Remember, Bushmaster was slated to move to KY, right up until "Chucky Schumer" , made a Godfather deal for them to set up shop in NY.....

Which they did.

If the gun makers are that stupid (much as I like S&W, Remington, Kimber, Bushmaster, Winchester, etc,..) to want to continue production in North Eastern "Anti-Gun" states.,..Ruger ihas already moved a substantial mkt to AZ.

I say, they made the bed they are sleeping in....

and if BHO gets re-elected,.....please,.....the employees of these NE companies elected these politicians, if they can't see the forest through the trees,....come South....

For the record, Winchester 30-30's are now "Made In Japan",.....I'm sure the Duke would be proud,......

Typical Yankees, (no offense to those Yankee members here),...Force American Companies to seek a better growth environment elsewhere.

Than bit** about the lack of revenue,....

RE: Detroit,...



Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: Gun Makers May Leave if N.Y. and Conn. Pass Microstamping Laws
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2012, 08:45:50 PM »
Crazy piece of legislation that some inventor got going, and the anti Second Amendment groups will not let die.  Micro stamping will do nothing to prevent or solve crimes.  Just like the idea that putting a spent case in a file is supposed to be a big crime stopper, this will be of no value.

Has anyone ever stopped to think what it takes to alter micro stamping within a firearm?  Do you think any criminal is going to be walking around with a firearm that has working micro stamping?
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Re: Gun Makers May Leave if N.Y. and Conn. Pass Microstamping Laws
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2012, 08:53:13 PM »
Crazy piece of legislation that some inventor got going, and the anti Second Amendment groups will not let die.  Micro stamping will do nothing to prevent or solve crimes.  Just like the idea that putting a spent case in a file is supposed to be a big crime stopper, this will be of no value.

Has anyone ever stopped to think what it takes to alter micro stamping within a firearm?  Do you think any criminal is going to be walking around with a firearm that has working micro stamping?

Its called a revolver.....No brass leftovers,.. ::) Been around for a long time,....They simply don't (insert expletive) get it.



Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: Gun Makers May Leave if N.Y. and Conn. Pass Microstamping Laws
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2012, 09:07:38 PM »
Remember, Bushmaster was slated to move to KY, right up until "Chucky Schumer" , made a Godfather deal for them to set up shop in NY.....

Which they did.

If the gun makers are that stupid (much as I like S&W, Remington, Kimber, Bushmaster, Winchester, etc,..) to want to continue production in North Eastern "Anti-Gun" states.,..Ruger ihas already moved a substantial mkt to AZ.

I say, they made the bed they are sleeping in....

and if BHO gets re-elected,.....please,.....the employees of these NE companies elected these politicians, if they can't see the forest through the trees,....come South....

For the record, Winchester 30-30's are now "Made In Japan",.....I'm sure the Duke would be proud,......

Typical Yankees, (no offense to those Yankee members here),...Force American Companies to seek a better growth environment elsewhere.

Than bit** about the lack of revenue,....

RE: Detroit,...

First off, NY isn't "New England", it wasn't even settled by the English.
Secondly, I continue to remind you that NH, Me, and Vt, have less restrictive gun laws than nearly any other state you want to name. NH and Me also had CC decades before Fla.

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Re: Gun Makers May Leave if N.Y. and Conn. Pass Microstamping Laws
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2012, 07:34:40 AM »
I'll concede NH (Sig), and Maine, however, Sen. Bernie Sanders admitted Socialist, and Sen. Patrick Leahy of VT? I don't know what kind of bi-polar nature VT folks have, a pretty pro-gun state, yet keep electing these asshat anti-gun folks.

Your correct, NY is not New England. Especially the far left states like Mass. RI, and CT. certainly are.

But somehow, all those Yankees retire, move, or spend the winter down here!!!!  ;)

Florida would be a lot more Conservative if we didn't have all these Liberal transplants...  :P



Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: Gun Makers May Leave if N.Y. and Conn. Pass Microstamping Laws
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2012, 08:11:16 AM »
Western PA would love to welcome those companies.   ;D

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Re: Gun Makers May Leave if N.Y. and Conn. Pass Microstamping Laws
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2012, 08:26:03 AM »
Anti gun and Second Amendment groups, and many in our very own government claim to be fighting gun violence.  They are spending (wasting) billions of our money playing these games, and they are trying to force private industry to spend billions of dollars or slowly go out of business.  However in all of this they are not addressing the true issue - VIOLENCE.

The issue is not the gun.  The issue is violence.

The idea of attacking the gun to end gun violence is like trying to cure acne by studying the pock marks decades later, like trying to cure chicken pox by dealing with the scabs, and like trying to cure alcoholism by removing livers from drinkers.  If you want to stop killing and danger to people you address the problem - The violent nature of human beings.  Taking away a tool will never stop the act.
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Re: Gun Makers May Leave if N.Y. and Conn. Pass Microstamping Laws
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2012, 08:57:53 AM »
I'll concede NH (Sig),(Ruger) (HK) (T/C A ) and Maine, however, Sen. Bernie Sanders admitted Socialist, and Sen. Patrick Leahy of VT? I don't know what kind of bi-polar nature VT folks have, a pretty pro-gun state, yet keep electing these asshat anti-gun folks.

Your correct, NY is not New England. Especially the far left states like Mass. RI, and CT. certainly are.

But somehow, all those Yankees retire, move, or spend the winter down here!!!!  ;)

Florida would be a lot more Conservative if we didn't have all these Liberal transplants...  :P

FIFY, 
I also have to disagree about the Liberals, I only know of one person from up here that moved there and supports BO, and he's a Union member and convicted felon so he shouldn't be able to vote.
Need to look at your own, more or less, "native" population, such as the Haitians who have been living off the US tax payer for over 200 years.

 

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