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Re: Buy SBR or convert AR pistol to SBR?
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2012, 08:18:00 PM »
Also of note, last year the ATF made a new updated ruling on "parts kits" and pistol conversions (thanks to T/C Arms).

Once a serialized receiver is listed as a rifle, it can only be converted to pistol or SBR with the ATF paperwork and stamp.
But, if it starts out as a pistol, then it can be converted to a rifle and back to a pistol as long as the 16" barrel and 26"OAL is followed while a rifle...... and parts for both can be kept.


http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-short-barreled-rifles-shotguns.html#receiver-sale

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Re: Buy SBR or convert AR pistol to SBR?
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2012, 08:22:22 PM »
Ahhh, short for, I'm Anal, it makes sense now. Perfect for lawyers. Or in this case I'm not Anal if you're a non-lawyer. Either way, it works.;D
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Re: Buy SBR or convert AR pistol to SBR?
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2012, 08:28:59 PM »
Also of note, last year the ATF made a new updated ruling on "parts kits" and pistol conversions (thanks to T/C Arms).

Once a serialized receiver is listed as a rifle, it can only be converted to pistol or SBR with the ATF paperwork and stamp.
But, if it starts out as a pistol, then it can be converted to a rifle and back to a pistol as long as the 16" barrel and 26"OAL is followed while a rifle...... and parts for both can be kept.


http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-short-barreled-rifles-shotguns.html#receiver-sale



The specific regulation change may have been last year, but the original Thompson Center case was a SCOTUS ruling from back in the late 80's when I worked there the first time. (T/C, not SCOTUS, I'm not a lawyer either  ;D  )

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Re: Buy SBR or convert AR pistol to SBR?
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2012, 08:51:43 PM »
The specific regulation change may have been last year, but the original Thompson Center case was a SCOTUS ruling from back in the late 80's when I worked there the first time. (T/C, not SCOTUS, I'm not a lawyer either  ;D  )

Yeah, I remember reading that it was an old SCotUS case. Heck of a lag-time.  ;D

You could probably do a better job than most Justices there.......... The paperwork was written a long time ago, all you have to do is read it.   ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Buy SBR or convert AR pistol to SBR?
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2012, 08:10:48 AM »
Why not go with SIG's new ACP Tactical Transformer (LE version) as depicted in Guns&Ammo (Nov)? ATF makes life miserable, so why make their day?
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Re: Buy SBR or convert AR pistol to SBR?
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Re: Buy SBR or convert AR pistol to SBR?
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2012, 11:52:54 AM »
Wow. Lots of stuff. So, the folding SBR is an option, but I'd have to wait out ATF paperwork... Or, buy pistol, have now, and file paperwork for SBR conversion?  Those sound reasonable?

 

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