TEaching the blind too shoot.

[Timothy]

Solus, your analogy of a blind golfer is off point.  Blind people who happen to golf, always have a spotter!  I've seen a few chronicled in magazines and on sports shows.

As to the rest, I'm with jnevis...not a chance in hell to avoid the worst case scenario.

[TAB]

I like the laser idea, I had not thought about it that way.   I also had an idea about having a highly focused weapon light.   so that some could see where its pointed.          In no part of the law does it say you have to be sighted to buy a gun.   the blind are actually very good about knowing who is who. 

[Jrlobo]

Every person has a right to self defense, including blind people. If the person has a seeing eye dog, can it be included in the training? The dog could be an asset in identifying friend from foe. Whimper/bark for friends and growl/snarl for foes. Plus the dog can point in the right direction, definitely looking at an intruder like any dog naturally would. Think about the possibilities using the seeing eye dog!

[jnevis]

In no part of the law does it say you have to be sighted to buy a gun.   the blind are actually very good about knowing who is who.  

May be true but are YOU willing to stake everything you have, including your freedom, on it?   If someone you train on the side actually has to use a gun to defend themself and they go to court, YOU go to court too.  If you don't have the credentials to show you are properly trained and training them to a curiculuum they will take you to the cleaners in civil court and probably at least charge you with criminal negligence.  That is why the NRA Personal Protection courses have BIG BOLD WARNINGS to have a lawyer or local LE teach all the legal aspects of self defense, and they also recommend keeping a lawyer on retainer.  

They may "know" who is who, but do they know who's BEHIND them?  
"Do not shoot if you cannot verify the target or what is BEYOND it."

[Solus]

Solus, your analogy of a blind golfer is off point.  Blind people who happen to golf, always have a spotter!  I've seen a few chronicled in magazines and on sports shows.

As to the rest, I'm with jnevis...not a chance in hell to avoid the worst case scenario.

You missed the point....the point was without the use of sight, the playing field was leveled.  If you are able to temporarily 'blind' your assailant  you will have the advantage because you have been operating without sight for some time where they will be confused and disoriented.   

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[Solus]

May be true but are YOU willing to stake everything you have, including your freedom, on it?   If someone you train on the side actually has to use a gun to defend themself and they go to court, YOU go to court too.  If you don't have the credentials to show you are properly trained and training them to a curiculuum they will take you to the cleaners in civil court and probably at least charge you with criminal negligence.  That is why the NRA Personal Protection courses have BIG BOLD WARNINGS to have a lawyer or local LE teach all the legal aspects of self defense, and they also recommend keeping a lawyer on retainer.  

They may "know" who is who, but do they know who's BEHIND them?  
"Do not shoot if you cannot verify the target or what is BEYOND it."

Frankly if someone had both hands around my throat and was trying to strangle me and I had a gun in my hand, I'd shoot regardless whether I knew who was behind the guy or not.    There MAY be someone behind them who MAY get  hit because my shot MAY exit the bad guy is weighed against I WILL be killed if I don't shoot. 

You've heard it before....  I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

[Timothy]

Well technically, the 2nd Amendment doesn't give you the right to shoot someone, only to own and carry!  The rest are assumed rights to defend ones self!  The balance of what's not spelled out specifically is left to the States or the people as says the 10th Amendment and where state law comes into the equation.  Here, you have to be able to see, CT you must be trained and live fire is required.  You won't get around those laws...

I'm not arguing their right to own one, just their ability to use it without causing other problems.

[Solus]

If I own a gun and would use it in self defense rather than be choked to death, I think it would show responsibility to train in a manner that would allow me to know when and  how I could reliably use the weapon to defend myself with minimum risk to others within the limits of my disability.

[tombogan03884]

There was a case in NJ IIRC where a guy had a CCW then lost his sight so the state revoked his CCW.
He sued and won eventually.
I took Drivers Ed with a guy who was legally blind, and to this day I thank God I never had to ride with him.
Same thing here, more power to them, but I don't want to be any where around.

[PegLeg45]

I'm not arguing their right to own one, just their ability to use it without causing other problems.

Agreed....but, at the end of the day (speaking for the blind defender), if I'm alive, the other "problems" may be of secondary concern (extremely important, but secondary to survival).