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Re: NPR Poll = Should teachers be allowed to carry in the classroom
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2012, 05:38:29 PM »
Teachers enter this profession to guide and prepare our children for their future. Arming them is not in their best interest. I do not want my daughters teacher having her job on the line because she can't qualify but is terrific as a facilitator. I would prefer she be concerned with curriculum and helping. Teachers are wide and large moderate to liberal.  I am not saying they aren't gun advocates but it isn't mainstream.

That said and expecting flak I would suggest access to weapons centralized and regulated. Such as an armory store in the principles office that key qualified persons may access. That will enable quick response and trained judgement.

We want a solution to the problem here not introduction of more.
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Re: NPR Poll = Should teachers be allowed to carry in the classroom
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2012, 05:47:10 PM »
I know a teacher who is "wide and large", but there is nothing moderate about protecting "her" kids.
As a serious reply, I will point out that it doesn't have to be all teachers, any more than it was all pilots.
History in places like Portland Ore, and Pearl Miss shows that while these mutts may be willing to take their own life the idea that some one else will do it before their ready brings them to a halt.

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Re: NPR Poll = Should teachers be allowed to carry in the classroom
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2012, 05:50:13 PM »
Teachers should NOT be allowed to carry in school. The very nature of a teacher is a detriment to the action which may be called for in an active shooter case.
There are plenty of qualified people such as retired police and veterans that would be glad to post up at a school, probably for free a few hours a day.

While I agree that most teachers should just lie down a get a bullet through the brain, there are a few who actually know how to think and might actually be entrusted to make a wise decision.  It is those few who should actually be allowed to carry and to protect those young innocents placed in their care.

The very nature of a teacher is to care for the young ones in their care.  To allow them to be sacrificed to a nut-case is to abrogate that duty.

And just to give additional dimension to my response, I am the son of a college professor and an elementary school teacher.  My sister is a recently retired elementary school teacher.  I have been involved in adult education for many years.  I am no stranger to the education system.  And it would break my heart to know one of my students had died because I left my Glock in the nightstand drawer.

2How, give a little more thought to real life before you embarrass yourself by making unsupportable comments. And to intimate that a non-compensated veteran or retired cop would be sufficient to counter all the evil in this world is evidence that you are living in some sort of la-la land.

Grow a pair and realize teachers are not expendable commodities that should willingly lay down and die.

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Re: NPR Poll = Should teachers be allowed to carry in the classroom
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2012, 06:00:19 PM »
Teachers enter this profession to guide and prepare our children for their future. Arming them is not in their best interest. I do not want my daughters teacher having her job on the line because she can't qualify but is terrific as a facilitator. I would prefer she be concerned with curriculum and helping. Teachers are wide and large moderate to liberal.  I am not saying they aren't gun advocates but it isn't mainstream.

That said and expecting flak I would suggest access to weapons centralized and regulated. Such as an armory store in the principles office that key qualified persons may access. That will enable quick response and trained judgement.

We want a solution to the problem here not introduction of more.

Not every teacher needs a gun, I agree....... But, if a teacher has already been vetted and has a valid CCW permit, why shouldn't they be allowed to carry in school?
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Re: NPR Poll = Should teachers be allowed to carry in the classroom
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2012, 06:21:53 PM »
Not every teacher needs a gun, I agree....... But, if a teacher has already been vetted and has a valid CCW permit, why shouldn't they be allowed to carry in school?

I cannot answer this. I am torn here. The gun advocate, person shooting of 20 years, says "Sure! This is a great idea! This will deter some from considering it."  The parent in me says that I need people who are directly accountable for their weapon. This isn't a range or in public. You are surrounded by children who will be curious of it. If they aren't exposed at home to weapons it may create problems.

I don't know anymore...
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Re: NPR Poll = Should teachers be allowed to carry in the classroom
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2012, 06:23:00 PM »
I cannot answer this. I am torn here. The gun advocate, person shooting of 20 years, says "Sure! This is a great idea! This will deter some from considering it."  The parent in me says that I need people who are directly accountable for their weapon. This isn't a range or in public. You are surrounded by children who will be curious of it. If they aren't exposed at home to weapons it may create problems.

I don't know anymore...

They call it 'concealed' for a reason.
"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

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Re: NPR Poll = Should teachers be allowed to carry in the classroom
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2012, 06:32:56 PM »
They call it 'concealed' for a reason.

The mere knowledge of a potentially armed individual in the school could dissuade some nut bags from trying...

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Re: NPR Poll = Should teachers be allowed to carry in the classroom
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2012, 06:36:12 PM »
The mere knowledge of a potentially armed individual in the school could dissuade some nut bags from trying...

Yep.

It doesn't have to be all or many.... just the thought of a few.
"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

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Re: NPR Poll = Should teachers be allowed to carry in the classroom
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2012, 07:16:20 PM »
We have several auxiliary (unpaid police officers) officers at my department that would stand in at the school and keep their commissions up to date. Food for thought.
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Re: NPR Poll = Should teachers be allowed to carry in the classroom
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2012, 07:35:36 PM »
We have several auxiliary (unpaid police officers) officers at my department that would stand in at the school and keep their commissions up to date. Food for thought.

Our schools here have on duty sheriffs deputies as school resource officers.  Unfortunately the school board does not allow them to have their gun belt on during school hours, it must be in the office or in their car along with their rifle/shotgun.
When seconds mean the difference between life and death, the police will be minutes away.

You are either SOLVING the problem, or you ARE the problem.

 

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