More Sandy Hook inconsistencies, Katie Couric interview

[Tyler Durden]

Watch this video, it's only 3 minutes long or so:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x_ikFlh7n0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

This woman, this eye witness, said when she pulled up to school, the black Honda was parked funny and had all its doors open.  Then it was strewn all over with black sweatshirts.



Where's the sweatshirts?

Why are the doors closed?

I could say more but I will leave it at that.

[Tyler Durden]

I remember seeing one of the guys who was apprehended by police as wearing a black sweatshirt and camo pants.  I just tried looking for thst pic and stumbled across this website:

http://www.latenightinthemidlands.com/m/blogpost?id=5685834%3ABlogPost%3A213631

Then I read this part:

One brave teacher, Kaitlin Roig, bundled a bunch of children into a bathroom and locked the door. What’s interesting about her testimony to ABC News is that when police arrived and asked her to open the door, she refused, saying that “if they were really cops, they’d know where to find keys to open the door.” In addition, she requested that they slide their badges under the door.
Now, this is generally a smart thing to do in any and all interactions with the police, especially in the U.S. But to have the wherewithal to do so under such traumatic circumstances strongly suggests that Ms. Roig had logically deduced by that point, that multiple perpetrators, were involved, and that they were either impersonating police officers, or were indistinguishable from SWAT team police commandos, either in the way they dressed, or the way they behaved, upon entering the building.
It also reminds us just how narrow the time window of the actual shooting was. The shooting appears to have barely ended when men knocked on that bathroom door, and told Ms. Roig, they were police.

If that part is true,   

[Tyler Durden]

To me at least, that appears to be two black sweatshirts on the ground next to the car, in the no parking zone.

[Tyler Durden]

I guess I'm just talking to myself in this thread.   

From the link here:

http://newtownbee.com/News/2012-12-27__14-58-27/Police%20Union%20Seeks%20Funding%20For%20Trauma%20Treatment

Scroll down to the very bottom of the page.  Last sentence says this:

A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source.

Was that story ever retracted?

From the scanner recordings, it was pointed out several times there two guys.  (maybe more)

A teacher inside the school tells the 911 dispatcher she saw two figures running by.  The dispatcher calls that out over the radio.  The one maybe two cops rolling up onto the scene call back over the radio something like " They are headed our way!". Then later on there is another transmission where the cop says something like "We got them!"

[JLawson]

I guess I'm just talking to myself in this thread.   

Speaking only for myself, of course, I just can't wrap my head around all of this being staged.  That's the story here, right?  That Sandy Hook never happened?  If this were true, what do you do with 20 kids - send 'em all to live with Grandma?  I think that what we have here is testimony to the notion that eyewitness accounts of a traumatic event are almost always inaccurate to some degree.  It's like watching a swarm of bees and trying to describe the path of each individual insect relative to the others.  Fear, confusion, uncertainty, crying, screaming, yelling, kids running around, terror, denial, gunfire, and panic - all experienced by people untrained to deal with an unfolding crisis - are not things that lend themselves to an accurate and complete observation of events.

As a parent, I cried for the kids... and I cried for the families.  And I pray that something like this never happens again.  To be completely honest, however, I've moved on.  I'm now focused on the struggle ahead, the fight to preserve our rights and our freedoms, the effort to show the injustice of demonizing guns and gun owners.  The struggle against evil never ends.

We pray for healing, strength, courage, and guidance - and then we move on.

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[tombogan03884]

I guess I'm just talking to myself in this thread.   

No, I'm reading it , but since you are my source for this stuff I haven't commented.
I will reply to JLawson though.

J, this administration already smuggled guns to the Mexican drug gangs as part of an effort to undermine the 2nd A.
It was no coincidence that Pelosi and crew picked that particular time to start blatting about the "Iron river" flowing South, or that they used made up percentages they thought would not be debunked .
As for Sandy Hook, do you actually know for sure that any kids actually died ?
This is a question I keep asking, does any one know some one in Newtown who can supply independent verification .
If it did happen there is no reason to believe that it was not carried out by Govt agents .
These are basically the same people who murdered 26 Branch Davidians so that ATF could get a bigger budget share, why would they hesitate to kill another 26 people to gain a major advance in their agenda that they have been pushing for for half a century ?

[Ksail101]

I guess I am replying to the thought that this was staged or never happened. I am not saying that or feel that one in the sense. I do believe that there has been coaching before interviews and that the truth in what has happened has been changed.
Do I believe there were more than one shooter. Yes
Do I believe that the real story is not being told because some knew they could use this event to push forward with their life long agendas? Yes
Do I believe actors were brought in to speak for families and that possibly families were bullied into letting these actors speak? Yes.
Did the media and has the media made this worse and set us up for another one happening soon or soon after an Assault Weapons band vote? Yes.

Now to the Aurora shooting. That one is all messed up. From where did the guy get the money to fund he escapade to multiple shooters being witnessed by many with tire marks and blood and gasmask all leading us to know more than one person was helping the guy.

Lastly I believe a tragic event happened in both instances but I dont believe that these were random acts. They were thought out in one case funded and then exploited for a political purpose.

[JLawson]

No, Tom, I can not personally verify that Sandy Hook actually happened.  To be honest, though, I can not personally verify most of the news I receive.  For example, the story out of Georgia about the mother bravely protecting her twins by shooting an intruder... I can't verify that because I don't know anyone there.  As for government agents being responsible, I understand that our government carries out black ops - missions that would make Vince Flynn's stuff look like birthday parties.  But if I can't verify that a lunatic killed those people then I sure as heck can't verify that a covert government team did it.  All I have is the first paragraph of the statement released by the NSSF:

http://www.nssf.org/newsroom/news/statement.cfm

We at the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) and the Sporting Arms & Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute (SAAMI) have been deeply shaken and saddened by the horrible events that took place in Newtown, Connecticut, our headquarters and home. In a small community there are not many degrees of separation and so, not surprisingly, we had family, friends and acquaintances that were affected. Our hearts and prayers go out to the families and the victims of this terrible tragedy.

I understand the significance, the ramifications, of learning what really happened at Sandy Hook.  I also understand that IF we ever learn the truth, it will probably be long after our current battle to preserve the 2A is either won or lost.

[Ksail101]

The lady in that Video tells of a black Hatchback with Hooded sweat shirted people. Why is no one asking her more about that? That is a HUGE red flag? Who are these people? Where did they come from? the school I am sure has cameras around the outside of the building most schools do. This is actually really big to me. Maybe people think she is making this story up and she well maybe. but then again she might be telling part of the real story.

[Solus]

Say some group needs a 'mass killing' incident to happen on cue.

They might locate a person who is borderline and will look psycho.

They might snatch that person, killing any witness..like a mother or other relative that happened to be around.

They might then take that person to the place where the crime is to be committed and have their 'team' do the deed...killing any witnesses they can without complicating things.

Then they snuff the person who is to be blamed for the tragedy.

Clean up and leave.