Dorner: What Lessons are there?

[BBJohnnyT]

Far too much "woe is me" crap. He took years to compile his entire non convincing load of silly foolishness.

He may have truly been wronged and had a legitimate grievance, but this personality dictated his course of action.  He was determined to handle it "his way".

[JC5123]

And by heavy munitions first supplied by us in the 80s and then by other Arab countries now.  Where would a local rebel get a case of RPGs or mortars?  Frankly, small arms only goes so far.

Exhibit A

[tombogan03884]

I read his manifesto.  From it, there is no way he couldn't help himself.  It's clear he was a huge narcissist and a hot-head to boot.  Worst combination, especially for a cop.

I caught the same drift. He tried to set himself up as a black Serpico. It didn't pan out. Far too much "woe is me" crap. He took years to compile his entire non convincing load of silly foolishness. He should have moved to the Sudan. With his stupid mentality, he would have fit right in with those murdering idiots.

Neither the LAPD or the media are exactly known for their honesty , or integrity.
I reserve judgement.
It seems darned odd to me that a Naval officer would sulk for 4 years before going on this sort of rampage.
Second, a 31 page manifesto isn't something you spend 4 years writing, especially not with so many up to date references.
If he were that peeved he would have started writing and not stopped until he was done or had to stop for sleep, a couple days at most.
And it's not as if his life were destroyed if he could afford to have a place in Las Vegas.
There's something we're not being told.
As for Afghan weapons, in the tribal area's of Pakistan you can buy any fire arm ever made built to order in a cottage industry that has been in place for a couple hundred years from a traditional "Jezail" like was used to wound Dr Watson, right up to modern (ish) artillery pieces and anti aircraft guns.

[jnevis]

According to DiFi and Villagrossa you can get RPGs and M2s in downtown LA too

[Solus]

According to DiFi and Villagrossa you can get RPGs and M2s in downtown LA too

Well, of course you can.   

The folks selling them went to Mexico to get some of the illegal arms flowing south from the US, then brought them back to flip them in LA.

Shrewd.

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[tombogan03884]

According to DiFi and Villagrossa you can get RPGs and M2s in downtown LA too

Actually, you probably can . Cartel surplus.

[PegLeg45]

Not sure I agree with that. Just taking an example from the Afghans. They have managed to keep us mired down for 11 years. Not a huge force either. But by using guerrilla tactics they have held their own. Although, it doesn't appear that the same handcuffing ROE applies for U.S. Citizens.

You miss gist of my statement.... by "all or nothing" I was referring to BB's statement about "all-out civil war" and meant the fighting groups need to be of the same 'heart and mind' and united as to the intended goal of their actions.
If one small group in New Hampshire decides to declare war on the Union, it will be played out like a 'Waco scenario' as a wacko group of militia crazies and dealt with. It would take multiple groups (or motivated individuals) across the nation, working for the same intended goal to stall .gov on a large level.....hence my "all or nothing" comment.

The Afghans are doing the same things to us that they did to the Russians when I was a teenager.

[MikeBjerum]

According to DiFi and Villagrossa you can get RPGs and M2s in downtown LA too

The corner 7-11 if I recall correctly 

[JC5123]

You miss gist of my statement.... by "all or nothing" I was referring to BB's statement about "all-out civil war" and meant the fighting groups need to be of the same 'heart and mind' and united as to the intended goal of their actions.
If one small group in New Hampshire decides to declare war on the Union, it will be played out like a 'Waco scenario' as a wacko group of militia crazies and dealt with. It would take multiple groups (or motivated individuals) across the nation, working for the same intended goal to stall .gov on a large level.....hence my "all or nothing" comment.

The Afghans are doing the same things to us that they did to the Russians when I was a teenager.

Gotcha, and I wholeheartedly agree with that. This is what I have been really anxious about. I think there are so many people ready for the fight. They are just waiting for someone to step up and lead. The question is who, and when. The problem I see is that until someone steps up who is recognizable, and who has some clout, all there will be is small groups, or individuals, all labeled as wackos. 

[PegLeg45]

Gotcha, and I wholeheartedly agree with that. This is what I have been really anxious about. I think there are so many people ready for the fight. They are just waiting for someone to step up and lead. The question is who, and when. The problem I see is that until someone steps up who is recognizable, and who has some clout, all there will be is small groups, or individuals, all labeled as wackos.

Yep.
Unless it is a big, 'one giant step for mankind' type uprising, .gov will smother the little attempts before they get started......DHS has plenty of ammo these days, you know.