Author Topic: If you have a son in scouting please take the survey  (Read 9406 times)

wtr100

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 447
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
If you have a son in scouting please take the survey
« on: March 18, 2013, 08:46:04 AM »
Their is a push in scouting to allow openly homosexuals into the organization as leaders and employees.  There is a 'Voice of the Scout' survey out on the subject. 

I don't for a minute beleive the decesion hasn't already been made but I'm posting a link to the survey anyway.  You'll need your son's ID number.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 
This survey includes additional question(s) seeking opinions about the potential change to membership standards policy being considered at the National Annual Meeting in May


You will need your membership ID number to register (if you don’t know it the council can help).

Paste the following URL into your browser:



 http://scouting.us.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_0lecWOay3bPbczP



I can't imagine allowing openly gay men into the program will do anything good.
Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, 60 rounds powder and ball and be ready to march at a minute's warning.

JdePietro

  • M14 Patterned Protagonist
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 282
  • "Neither Spare nor Dispose"
    • Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: If you have a son in scouting please take the survey
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2013, 09:42:54 AM »
Why? What possible harm could come from allowing homosexuals into scouting? There has already been cases of child molestation by straight males and gay or lesbian does not mean child predator. What would allowing somebody who may have excellent qualification in teaching and outdoor skills do to you personally?

I don't understand why we continually draw a distinction between ourselves. Black, white, gay straight, brown or anything in between, we are all people. Last I checked the US Constitution said "ALL". Not some, not the privileged few, not just the ones who's life style is agreeable, "all".

While I understand that The Boy Scouts of America are a private organization that have the right to discrimination I feel that it violates every ethical fiber of the Boy Scout Law and Oath to exclude those who live differently from us. 
How vain it is to sit down to write when you have not stood up to live.
-Henry David Thoreau

TAB

  • DRTV Rangers
  • Top Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10232
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 103
Re: If you have a son in scouting please take the survey
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2013, 09:44:53 AM »
as a eagle scout, I can honestly say, I have np with gays as leaders or as employees.   judge the person.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

wtr100

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 447
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: If you have a son in scouting please take the survey
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2013, 10:30:38 AM »
call me old fashinoed I guess   ::)
Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, 60 rounds powder and ball and be ready to march at a minute's warning.

1911 Junkie

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1340
  • aka Mr 4000
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: If you have a son in scouting please take the survey
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2013, 10:44:17 AM »
What harm can come? Seriously? How about us having the right to choose who we associate with. The right to teach our children what is morally acceptable. I guess we can get rid of the "morally straight" part of the scout oath to make the scouts more progressive and politically correct, because compromising ones values never has a negative effect, right? And then why not let child molesters in? After all, they are part of the "all", just because you may not agree with their choice of lifestyle......

I really don't care if someone is gay or not, go live your life. Just don't expect me to welcome you with open arms and ask an organization to change because you feel offended. Get over it, you want to be involved with kids then go find an organization that will appreciate you.

I am also an eagle scout and my son is in his first year of scouts. I will tell you that if the BSA bends to these people I will not hesitate to turn in my eagle badge and pull my son from scouting, as the organization I was once proud of belonging no longer exists.
"I'd love to spit some Beechnut in that dudes eye and shoot him with my old .45"  Hank Jr.

Sponsor

  • Guest
Re: If you have a son in scouting please take the survey
« Reply #5 on: Today at 03:50:42 PM »

Jrlobo

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 628
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: If you have a son in scouting please take the survey
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2013, 11:55:02 AM »
I am so glad my son is no longer of scouting age, but he can be drafted into a military that now allows gays and lesbians. As an adult, I doubt that that bothers him too much. But moral upbringing is and should be a concern for parents of younger children as in the case of morality, it is the parents who are ultimately responsible. Given today's lack of responsibility among parents, however, and their continued increasing reliance on the government to teach "morality" to their children in schools, the handwriting sure enough is on the wall. I would definitely encourage parents of scouting age children to take a stand on this issue, lest the government do this for you too. As for those that like to cite the Constitution's "all", remember that it didn't really mean "all" at the beginning...some were just 3/5 all when it came to be counted for representation and some weren't counted at all! Oh well, guess I am old fashioned too. 
Lobo

"Often in error, never in doubt!"

JC5123

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2572
  • Fortune sides with him who dares.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: If you have a son in scouting please take the survey
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2013, 12:58:31 PM »
What harm can come? Seriously? How about us having the right to choose who we associate with. The right to teach our children what is morally acceptable. I guess we can get rid of the "morally straight" part of the scout oath to make the scouts more progressive and politically correct, because compromising ones values never has a negative effect, right? And then why not let child molesters in? After all, they are part of the "all", just because you may not agree with their choice of lifestyle......

I really don't care if someone is gay or not, go live your life. Just don't expect me to welcome you with open arms and ask an organization to change because you feel offended. Get over it, you want to be involved with kids then go find an organization that will appreciate you.



This nails it. BSA is a PRIVATE organization funded largely by the Mormon church. As a private organization they should be allowed to decide who is a fit member to add to their staff. I'm sorry but homosexuals do NOT fit with the standards of that organization so tough. If you are homosexual, you don't get in. 
I am a member of my nation's chosen soldiery.
God grant that I may not be found wanting,
that I will not fail this sacred trust.

Solus

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8666
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 43
Re: If you have a son in scouting please take the survey
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2013, 01:13:53 PM »
This nails it. BSA is a PRIVATE organization funded largely by the Mormon church. As a private organization they should be allowed to decide who is a fit member to add to their staff. I'm sorry but homosexuals do NOT fit with the standards of that organization so tough. If you are homosexual, you don't get in. 

From what I see here, this is the Boy Scouts survey to see what members think of the issue. 

The Boy Scouts are going to make this decision whether homosexuals get in or not.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
—Patrick Henry

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
— Daniel Webster

JC5123

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2572
  • Fortune sides with him who dares.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: If you have a son in scouting please take the survey
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2013, 02:10:08 PM »
From what I see here, this is the Boy Scouts survey to see what members think of the issue. 

The Boy Scouts are going to make this decision whether homosexuals get in or not.

And that's fine, what I don't want to see is like so many before them, the BSA bowing down to external pressure.
I am a member of my nation's chosen soldiery.
God grant that I may not be found wanting,
that I will not fail this sacred trust.

wtr100

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 447
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: If you have a son in scouting please take the survey
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2013, 02:43:46 PM »
From what I see here, this is the Boy Scouts survey to see what members think of the issue. 

The Boy Scouts are going to make this decision whether homosexuals get in or not.

I don't for a minute think the decision to have gay leaders and employees hasn't already been made but I do want the true feelings of the normal people to be heard

Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, 60 rounds powder and ball and be ready to march at a minute's warning.

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk