Ted Nugent on gun control, the police, and Ted Kennedy

[cookie62]

the reason a LEO can and do (most LEOs) carry offduty is because if you put some dirt bag away, when he gets out you and your family can become a target of revenge. If they know you are unarmed it puts that officer in more danger. As far as the nationwide ccw is concerned, it was passed because they saw a need to have more people out there. Hopefully it will lead to a national ccw for all who have a permit to carry. Sometimes you have to take it one step at a time. Pollitical winds blow back and forth. If we can get the right people in office maybe we can get it blowing our way.

[TAB]

trust me the same LEO groups that wanted CC for off duty officers nation wide will be against it for every one else.

There are alot of other professions that are at risk or more so then a LEO when it comes to people coming after them.   what about them?

[tombogan03884]

trust me the same LEO groups that wanted CC for off duty officers nation wide will be against it for every one else.

There are alot of other professions that are at risk or more so then a LEO when it comes to people coming after them.   what about them?

Use them as an arguement for the next step, thats what about them. This is all just kicking around thoughts now, but it becomes less theoreticle after the Supreme Court dicision the end of this month. Then we will either have more ammo to work with or we will have to fight to hold the ground we HAVE.

[TAB]

I really doubt we will have more ammo after heller comes down.


Chance are they will make a very narrow ruling that only applys to DC.  depening on how they worde it, it may or may not be usable for place like chicago.   I would not get your hopes up.

[tombogan03884]

It is what you MAKE of it.

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[ronrdrcr]

There ya' go....dead on.  I've often thought these "targeted laws" like gun control, dumb OSHA laws (not all), environmental laws (not all), were applied equally to everyone there would be a positive effect...as in waking up sheep.  At least they would want a different sheep herder. 

For instance, while I worked offshore we were allowed to put a little bit of oil in the water by design...that level about 1 shot glass of oil mixed in a tanker truck amount of water or our behinds were grass.  Outboard motors dirtied up the water far more than that.  And rich peoples yachts...a heck of a lot more than an outboard...ever notice that sheen behind a boat?  And, oh yeah, you know how a lot of those millionaires save money, instead of having the oil changed back at the marina, they'd just drain it in their bilge, mix it with Dawn soap and pump it overboard...still do.  For that matter, how much oil and gas washes away from a filling station with every rain...a lot more than is put overboard offshore from a typical platform and no reprecussions.....

I am not saying to not make persons or companies responsible for taking advantage of a situation.  My point...make the laws apply equally to everyone, enforce the laws equally and watch them go away.....

Working in the Coast Guard Command Center in St. Petersburg, I learned a lot about the pollution laws and what is allowed and what isn't.  Anytime soap is mixed with oil it is a major fine.  Dumping soap into water to clean up a mess of oil just spreads the oil out more.  The rich people in their yachts with a sheen behind them do get fined, when they are caught.  We can't catch all of them because we can't be everywhere at once.  That is where you come in.  If you spot an oil sheen behind a vsl or near one, call the National Response Center at 1-800-424-8802 or 877-24WATCH.  They will ask some questions and forward the report to all involved agencies.  The Coast Guard will respond immediately if it is in our jurisdiction.  Sorry, just had to throw that in here.

I honestly believe the 2nd ammendment gives me the right to bear arms anywhere I am.  It says nothing about restricting my right to my home or property.  I should be able to carry concealed anywhere in the U.S. without a CCW, for my personal protection.

Ron

[Ruger-55]

  shit house rat ? lol lol lol lol lol  god i have tears coming out of my eyes.........

[tumblebug]

And become a polution NAZI ratting on my brothers up your's./.,;HEAD