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santahog

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"Best Battery" question, please?
« on: July 02, 2013, 11:11:43 AM »
What type of (AAA) battery is best to put in a flashlight for sustained power/longevity?
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Re: "Best Battery" question, please?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2013, 11:13:39 AM »
Use duracells. Whether they're better or not I don't know. Its just habit.

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Re: "Best Battery" question, please?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 11:17:39 AM »
But is there a better "type" of battery for the application?
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Re: "Best Battery" question, please?
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2013, 12:23:58 PM »
Here's some basic battery information. 

Depending upon the application, different battery types will perform more or less efficiently. 

Here are some examples:  for long-term, steady power drain, such as experienced in a netbook or laptop computer, a lithium rechargeable is better.  They can be recharged at any point in their cycle without developing a "memory." They will effectively maintain their stated voltage over the entire discharge period and drop rather suddenly at the end.

NiCad batteries are also okay for this type of application, but if they are recharged before they are fully discharged, their useful life will shorten to the new set-point.  Like the lithium cousins, they tend to maintain their design voltage right up to the point when they drop off the edge.

Traditional batteries (the kind we grew up with) achieve their rated output when you first use them, but drop off slowly over time until thy no longer have the necessary voltage to do whatever it is you want them to do.  They will generally last up to 70% as long as ordinary alkaline batteries.

Alkaline batteries act like traditional batteries, but will generally last about 30% longer.  They also tend to better maintain voltage during long periods of storage. I think DuraCell has something like a 5-year power storage guarantee.

Like many of the products we tend to rely on, batteries are generally worth what you pay for them.  Cheap batteries will not usually last as long as their more expensive cousins whether they be traditional or alkaline.  DuraCell is among the better brands.  EverReady alkaline are also pretty good and they come with a guarantee that they will replace anything harmed by their batteries.  I have witnessed this when a friend retrieved a battery-operated television from a dumpster.  The EverReady batteries had leaked and destroyed the guts of the thing.  Friend sent it to EverReady and they replaced the TV with a cautionary note that batteries should not be left in place when the TV is stored for long periods of time.

Both traditional and alkaline batteries will eventually leak, so make certain you check and replace as needed.  Going through your supply of lanterns, torches, or flashlights on a regular basis--say every two months or so--should ensure you have light when you need it.

As to the best for a quality flashlight application, i concur with what has been noted by others above, and generally purchase DuraCell, although I try to get them with a coupon and usually buy them at COSTCO because they are better priced than most other places.

For cheap, give away flashlights--such as those given away free at Harbor Freight Tools--I will generally use a less expensive alkaline.  You can get decent flashlight batteries at Auto Zone at an unusually low price.  They do not last as long as Duracell, but I generally break or lose the cheap flashlights before the batteries go dead.

It really comes down to a cost versus use equation.  If you can get quality, traditional batteries for less than 70% of what you'd pay for a good quality alkaline, it's not a bed economic bet. If the numbers don't work out, pass on the purchase.

My Mag Lights always get DuraCells as do the tactical flashlights I have stashed around.  I am satisfied with their quality for their cost.

Maybe this helps you with the decision-making process.

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Re: "Best Battery" question, please?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2013, 01:21:18 PM »
If  you are using standard wear out batteries, the only thing I have heard about them is that in tests Radio Shack batteries did better....not because they were any better but because they were fresher because of quicker turn over in the stores so they were fresher than other batteries.

I believe this was by Consumer Reports and was probably 15 years ago.

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Re: "Best Battery" question, please?
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2013, 06:17:10 PM »
Best is a relative term.  I usually buy the EverReady to save a few $$$'s.  The difference in price between Duracell and EverReady is significant in that I can have more fresh batteries if I buy EverReady than I can with Duracell.  The difference in life that I have observed is nil.  I have seen both equally fail over time and corrode....that's a shame on me when it happens.

So for instance if brand cheap lasts 95% as long as brand super duper and brand cheap costs only 85% of what super duper costs then cheap is the best value. 

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Re: "Best Battery" question, please?
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2013, 06:28:44 PM »
I've had good service from Energizer Advanced Lithium in my keychain lights... Fenix E01 and Fenix E05.... my hurricane preps are being standardized to Sanyo Eneloop AA... NiMH rechargables

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Re: "Best Battery" question, please?
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2013, 07:20:18 PM »
Also try Battery junction. You can save big on pretty much any brand if you order by the dozen. I'm withRastus when it comes to CR123ss because they only last a couple hours in a tac light on high, s I get Ray o vacs or Titanium solution. I use Titianium solution 1860s as well as they came with my light and they seem to do fine so far. I just go with Duracell for the alkaline because of 5 year drawer life claim. But hit Batteryjunction .com. You save some serious bucks particularly on Lion batteries. You can get them for about a buck a pop rather than 5 times that in the store.

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Re: "Best Battery" question, please?
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2013, 09:22:17 PM »
CR pretty much covered it.   And, you already limited it by saying they're AAA.

In that format the basic choice is alkaline or one of the rechargeables.   The problem with recharageables is their shelf life tends to be a little limited (NiCd), they run at slightly less open-circuit voltage or they are very expensive and require expensive chargers (NiMH).  

In format, some of the torch makers have gone to 123 cells.  Gives a little more power for a little longer than AA or AAA, but not as bulky as C.

The wars over which brand is best, Duracell v EverReady is just like the 1911 v GLock, Revolver v SA, 9mm v 40, and will go on forever.  I do think most A/V people prefer Pro Cell (Duracell) but then we tend to by in bulk (at discount) and from stores that turn it over frequently (like Batteries Plus).  
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Re: "Best Battery" question, please?
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 12:27:37 PM »
Thank you ALL!!!
I used to be "up on" this topic, but my brain slipped a disc awhile back. I lost alot of information in the incident..
It bugs me that I can buy a decent "thing", with no-name batteries that last as long as the thing says it's supposed to last. Then I can put any garden variety "good" battery in it and it loses 40% of it's previous expectation..
(Of course, I tossed the original batteries without looking at them..)
Thanks, guys..
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