No Concealed Carry @ US-Bank

[TAB]

A small biz owner spends more time in thier place of biz then they do at home.  It is exactly like thier home, many infact see it as more important then thier home.   would you say castle doctorin applys to a place of biz as well as the home? 

[MikeBjerum]

A small biz owner spends more time in thier place of biz then they do at home.  It is exactly like thier home, many infact see it as more important then thier home.   would you say castle doctorin applys to a place of biz as well as the home? 

Castle Doctrine applies to your personal space.  It may be your home, office, front yard, or a safe radius that move throughout life with you.  That said, you are wrong about a business place being the same as a home.  I don't care if you live in an apartment that is a part of the business.  Once you cross the threshold that is between you living quarters and the business area you are a business place and subject to the Constitution when it comes to the Civil Rights of those you invite* into your business.

*By posting a business sign, an open sign, putting an ad in the media, or taking out a listed phone number for your business you are inviting people to your business.

[TAB]

The bill of rights was written to protect the people from the gov, not other people.   ccw is NOT, I repeat NOT a protected right.  If it was it would be the same nation wide, its not.  Its not a infringement to have a person say don't do that here,  most employers do. its really simple, if you don't like some ones policys, take your money some place else.  Don't be an ass about it and go against thier wishes.   

[MikeBjerum]

Where are me friends on here?

You are supposed to be like designated drivers and bitch slap me before I go down the trail with TAB!

[1911 Junkie]

TAB never should have left commiefornia. He's part of the problem of the disease spreading beyond its borders. Go back before you infect anyone.

[Sponsor]

[Solus]

The bill of rights was written to protect the people from the gov, not other people.   ccw is NOT, I repeat NOT a protected right.  If it was it would be the same nation wide, its not.  Its not a infringement to have a person say don't do that here,  most employers do. its really simple, if you don't like some ones policys, take your money some place else.  Don't be an ass about it and go against thier wishes.  

Are you saying they can stop you from carrying concealed on their property put cannot stop you from open carrying?

Or are you saying that open carry is not protected also?

And, TAB,

The 9th Amendment:

  The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

So, a right does not have to be listed in the Bill of Rights to be protected.  So you will need to show me were the constitution prohibits CCW.

Similarly, contrary to popular belief,  driving is a right and not a privilege.  First because driving is the common means of transportation, like horse or horse and buggy was when the country was founded.  From what I know of the founders, they would not let the government at any level restrict the right to basic transportation.

Second.  The government derives it's power from the people, so unless we gave it the power to grant specific privileges, it has none to grant.

Note also that this does not mean I am in disagreement with your point of view, just that you need to defend it with valid arguments.

[fatbaldguy]

TAB, the second amendment says I have the inalienable right to keep and bear arms.  It does not specify the manner in which those arms may or may not be carried.

[TAB]

Fbg, that is exactly my point.  It does not say, which means it can be regulated.  Don't get me wrong I support ccw 100% and think if you can own a gun, tou should be able to ccw.   I just very strongly feel that a biz owner should be able to regulate what comes to thier place of biz.   its both a respect thing and a liabilty( minor part)

[fatbaldguy]

Fbg, that is exactly my point.  It does not say, which means it can be regulated.  Don't get me wrong I support ccw 100% and think if you can own a gun, tou should be able to ccw.   I just very strongly feel that a biz owner should be able to regulate what comes to thier place of biz.   its both a respect thing and a liabilty( minor part)

By that logic, it does not say which arms.  Which means arms can be regulated.  Unintended consequences and all that.  As for respect, that is a two way street.  If you don't respect my right to protect myself and my loved ones, then I won't respect your silly little signs. 

[billt]

That's why it's called Concealed Carry. So NO ONE will know you're carrying. As far as "getting caught"? After the shooting stops, who cares, if you've successfully defended yourself?