Starbucks Says Guns Unwelcome, Though Not Banned

[billt]

This is yet another case of companies trying to play both sides of the fence, in an attempt to appease everyone. The result is they wind up getting EVERYONE pissed off at them. A bit like Hussein with Syria. First they "welcomed" concealed carry. Now they don't. If they aren't sure, or else don't know what the backlash will bring to the table business wise, then keep your mouth shut, and don't take a stand to begin with. This entire country is drowning in a sea of political correctness, and it's really getting old listening to it.

[Magoo541]

I used to drink Starbucks, when it was on sale or if someone else was buying it BUT there is much better coffee to be had here locally and at the store.

Don't recall participating in one of the Starbucks Appreciation days and if I did I was carrying concealed because of the previous comments about OC.  I  do think it society has been brainwashed to see guns as evil and the Sheeple don't mind if they can't see them-IGNORANCE is Bliss?

Starbucks is in a quandary and would be better served to keep quiet on the subject but we know there are some Liberals on staff that are chomping at the bit to ban guns, NRA/SAF/GOA hats, pins and flags within a 100 yards of their stores IF they could.

If we want to change the culture we need to educate, advocate and participate in every public forum we can IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER.  Carrying open at Pro Second Amendment Rallies is fine, but carrying open to cause others fear is counter productive.

[tombogan03884]

It doesn't happen often but I agree with George.
What part of
"It's your f*cking right"
\Don't you cowards understand ?
If you want to quit doing something because it might offend some one who hates you any way, why not quit voting .
You don't have guts enough for revolution, but at least you won't be offending Obama's minions.

[billt]

Honestly, I've never set foot in a Starbucks. $5.00 for a cup of coffee doesn't exactly light my fire.

[tombogan03884]

I had a Starbucks coffee once, I will drink some pretty crappy coffee, but I won't drink that sh*t.

[Sponsor]

[PegLeg45]

I 100% believe in the right to carry OC or CC anywhere I choose... and I have that right in Georgia, with a permit.

All I am saying concerning this situation is that you can't do something like OC, with the sole intention of attracting attention and not expect something (whether positive or negative) to come from it...... and then get up in arms WHEN something comes from it.

I've never been a fan of OC for strategic or tactical (to use an over used term) reasons. I have the upper hand with CC and training.
OC just isn't worth the hassle, just to prove a point, as long as the general public are sheepish chickens.

If someone wants to OC, by all means do it.... I'll nod and tip my cap to you as I walk by while you are being detained by the "ignorant of the law Nazi officer" who was summoned because some sheep panicked.

And as for Starbucks, I don't often drink coffee....but for my money, McDonalds has the best for a $1.

[Solus]

This is yet another case of companies trying to play both sides of the fence, in an attempt to appease everyone. The result is they wind up getting EVERYONE pissed off at them. A bit like Hussein with Syria. First they "welcomed" concealed carry. Now they don't. If they aren't sure, or else don't know what the backlash will bring to the table business wise, then keep your mouth shut, and don't take a stand to begin with. This entire country is drowning in a sea of political correctness, and it's really getting old listening to it.

I haven't looked for the original statement by Starbucks.  Are you sure they said the "welcomed" carrying in their store or that they would not ban it because it was legal in that location.

My impression of the first statement was not that they supported open or concealed carry, just that they would not ban it.

[kmitch200]

I haven't looked for the original statement by Starbucks.  Are you sure they said the "welcomed" carrying in their store or that they would not ban it because it was legal in that location.
My impression of the first statement was not that they supported open or concealed carry, just that they would not ban it.

Exactly right. They didn't cave to the PantShittingHysteria soccer mom crowd that wanted an outright ban. That morphed into the gunnies setting up their soapbox in the middle of Starbuck's living room.
Starbuck's just said, "Take your argument elsewhere and leave us to sell overpriced coffee."

I haven't seen it posted yet but here's the memo:
http://www.starbucks.com/blog/an-open-letter-from-howard-schultz/1268

[crusader rabbit]

While I tend to agree with Tom that a right not exercised is a right relinquished, this Starbuck's kerfuffle is, in my opinion, mostly a non-issue.

As I read the original pronouncement and the follow-up, more restrictive verbiage, I don't see that much has changed.

Where OC is legal. it's still legal. 

Starbucks would prefer it if those with a right to OC would not extend that right to their stores. 

They can't legally enforce that preference. 

And, while I also agree with Tom about the quality of their coffee (I won't drink it) this latest posturing by their CEO gives me even less reason to patronize their cafes. 

File this under: Who Cares?

Crusader Rabbit

[brushmore]

Colin nails it again.  This shouldn't be an issue that fragments CCs and OCs.