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Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2008, 09:59:37 AM »
It's intelectual facism using techniques straight out of Orwells 1984.   >:(

Ironic you mention Fascism and George Orwell.  Whilst conservatives, capitalists, and believers in the free market have be pilloried for the last 40 some odd years as neo-fascist, or plain old fascist take a long look at those on the political and ideological left.  They have admired and espoused fascist ideals and values for twice as many years as they have used it as a politically correct insult.

Here are the cliffs notes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism


http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841
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Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2008, 10:18:17 AM »
Ironic you mention Fascism and George Orwell.  Whilst conservatives, capitalists, and believers in the free market have be pilloried for the last 40 some odd years as neo-fascist, or plain old fascist take a long look at those on the political and ideological left.  They have admired and espoused fascist ideals and values for twice as many years as they have used it as a politically correct insult.

Here are the cliffs notes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism


http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841

Good point, The ultimate Fascists, Germany's Nazi's, were national SOCIALISTS as opposed to the Soviet Union's INTERNATIONAL socialist movement.

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Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2008, 10:21:05 AM »
I have always found that those that are so quick to throw those terms around (Fascist, Nazi, Racist, etc.) normally have zero idea of the actual meaning of the words.
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Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2008, 10:22:17 AM »
I have always found that those that are so quick to throw those terms around (Fascist, Nazi, Racist, etc.) normally have zero idea of the actual meaning of the words.

Or they are calling you what they are ashamed to admit that THEY are.

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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2008, 08:45:33 PM »
Ironic you mention Fascism and George Orwell.  Whilst conservatives, capitalists, and believers in the free market have be pilloried for the last 40 some odd years as neo-fascist, or plain old fascist take a long look at those on the political and ideological left.  They have admired and espoused fascist ideals and values for twice as many years as they have used it as a politically correct insult.

Here are the cliffs notes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism


http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841

From the wikipedia article on fascism:

Some have argued that the term fascist has become hopelessly vague over the years and that it has become little more than a pejorative epithet. George Orwell wrote in 1944:

...the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else... almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism)

I, when confonted with the "fascist" label in conversation, ask people to define what they mean.  I have added the Orwell quote above to illustrate what they usually mean, but it is funny seeing a leftist goosestepper fumble for a definition.  Try it.  It's fun to see a lefty squirm.  The vague definition will also go along with the PC heart of this thread. It is much easier to "feel" with the crowd instead of thinking for yourself.  To close with a quote:

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Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
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Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2008, 09:04:48 PM »
From the wikipedia article on fascism:

Some have argued that the term fascist has become hopelessly vague over the years and that it has become little more than a pejorative epithet. George Orwell wrote in 1944:

...the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else... almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism)

I, when confonted with the "fascist" label in conversation, ask people to define what they mean.  I have added the Orwell quote above to illustrate what they usually mean, but it is funny seeing a leftist goosestepper fumble for a definition.  Try it.  It's fun to see a lefty squirm.  The vague definition will also go along with the PC heart of this thread. It is much easier to "feel" with the crowd instead of thinking for yourself.  To close with a quote:

What is right is not always easy, and what is easy is not always right.

All too true, it is fun. But most of them have no self-respect or shame. So yes, it is fun to make them squirm, but 2 minutes later they don't remember and will make the same stupid mistake over again. Did I mention they are slow learners too?

Kind of like some of the arguments with certain folks on this site.   >:(
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