Bad Moon Rising

[Solus]

But that is the whole point of this being a STATE convention. The feds don't get a say.

That is true.....but one of the functions of the state convention is to request a federal convention and THAT is when the Feds...and only the selected Feds have all the say.

Of course, if you can't trust the Feds, who can you trust.

We don't care about what happens at the state convention EXCEPT for their ability to trigger a Federal Constitution Convention and that is where every freedom we have protected by the constitution is in dire jeopardy.

[billt]

As far as Federal money goes. Hard core liberal blue states require far more of it than conservative red states do. Just look at California, Illinois, and Mass. Their entire form of government would crumble without the constant infusion of Federal money. Democrats are the party who believe there is not a problem in existence that cannot be solved by throwing money at it.

 That alone will keep them enslaved to what will ultimately destroy them, along with the bogus form of government they so love to embrace. The best example you have of this is Detroit. It collapsed like a financial house of cards. Chicago and California are next. They will eat themselves alive with government.

[Rastus]

A state convention can turn into a federal convention if the state conventions so desire and if enough states are on board.  This is the plan...why do you think 18 states are having a convention called and in previous years there were zero scheduled conventions?  This is not happenstance, this is cold calculation to backdoor the people...you are not supposed to see the end game...."state conventions" are the smoke and mirrors to confuse you.

When a convention is called "We the people" have no say. Period.  The delegates are free to do what they want.  For now, states must adhere to the US Constitution but if 41 (or 42?) state conventions decide to get together they can trash that old worn out document and give us something new and shiney. 

And it can legally be anything the delegates want it to be.  They can legally start a kingdom if they want with Barack as the King and Harry Reid (a little dis here...) as the queen.  "Mr. and Mrs. America....turn in those guns....stop talking bad about the president and news media you don't have the right to talk irresponsibly like that and oh, by the way, you are really only renting the land you are on from the government, you don't own a thing because we all know that everything flows from government down to the people."  They could also decide, for instance, to include Mexico and Canada as part of the new nation if those nations were so inclined..

Things are not as they appear my friend.  There is no end to the damage we could incur from this.

But that is the whole point of this being a STATE convention. The feds don't get a say.

[Rastus]

But that is the whole point of this being a STATE convention. The feds don't get a say.

If that were only true.  This is an organized movement.  At mid-March when Oklahoma was falling for this "under the radar nationalist movement" disguised as a "State Constitutional Convention" there we only 18 states calling for this.  Now there are 34 states.

Please read this excerpt from my initial post:  "What is bad about this is that when a sufficient number of states have Constitutional Conventions for their state they can continue and effortlessly call for a U.S. Constitutional Convention without consulting the people.  MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS IS A COORDINATED EFFORT by our "government leaders" to back door a Constitutional Convention on a federal level that is supported by dems and RINOS."

This is not a movement to fix states, it is a movement to use that guise to modify or delete the current U.S. Constitution.

I know you are sincere, but if you believe this is just a thing about STATES you are plain wrong....maybe because it feels good, maybe because someone lied to you, maybe because you aren't thinking clearly...or who knows....I don't care.  And I AM trying to piss you off a bit so you'll pay attention to this. 

This unrelated call for many State Constitutional Conventions IS NOT for the purpose you think it is; it is a coordinated and targeted attempt to use the mechanism of unrelated State Constitutions to legally come together for a US Constitutional Convention without a pending Constitutional Amendment that is wholly legal and sanctioned by our current U.S. Constitution as a vehicle to change or eliminate the U.S. Constitution.  This is because this power, despite our immersion in a "federal government" is held by the states themselves.   

You are not supposed to see the end game.  That's the point of this tactic to strip you of your freedoms.