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Re: Rifle explodes
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2008, 11:23:11 PM »
Anyone who says the extractor held the round in place is correct. That's the nature of the world famous controlled-round feed system. From there, I think the bullet flew ahead and plugged the bore, turning the chamber into a pipe bomb. He's lucky the bolt didn't fly through his head.

I don't know if it's on the unsafe list, but .44 magnum ammo will fit in a .45 colt chamber. The rim thickness and diameter are the same (or within 2/1000 of an inch). I think either of my .45/.410 bore Contender barrels would shoot a .44 okay, but I'm not stupid enough to try it. I'll just put the .44 Magnum barrel on and use the right ammo. I also heard that combination will blow up a SAA.
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Re: Rifle explodes
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2008, 12:41:58 AM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on July 30, 2008, 11:23:11 PM
Anyone who says the extractor held the round in place is correct. That's the nature of the world famous controlled-round feed system. From there, I think the bullet flew ahead and plugged the bore, turning the chamber into a pipe bomb. He's lucky the bolt didn't fly through his head.

I don't know if it's on the unsafe list, but .44 magnum ammo will fit in a .45 colt chamber. The rim thickness and diameter are the same (or within 2/1000 of an inch). I think either of my .45/.410 bore Contender barrels would shoot a .44 okay, but I'm not stupid enough to try it. I'll just put the .44 Magnum barrel on and use the right ammo. I also heard that combination will blow up a SAA.

I don't see why it would be dangerous I checked my reloading manual and the 44 mag bullet is about .020 smaller than the 45 Colt it would have plenty of room in the barrel, in fact it isn't large enough to engage the rifling.
By the way, when were your 45/410 contender barrels made, I may have worked on them, although I tried to grab the Encore barrels and leave the Contenders for first shift.
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Re: Rifle explodes
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2008, 01:42:20 AM »
Quote from: tombogan03884 on July 31, 2008, 12:41:58 AM
I don't see why it would be dangerous I checked my reloading manual and the 44 mag bullet is about .020 smaller than the 45 Colt it would have plenty of room in the barrel, in fact it isn't large enough to engage the rifling.
By the way, when were your 45/410 contender barrels made, I may have worked on them, although I tried to grab the Encore barrels and leave the Contenders for first shift.

The 14" was made before the Encore was even invented. I can't remember how long I've had the 10" but not as long.

It can't be good to have a .42 caliber bullet rattling down a .45 caliber barrel. I think it would somewhat work, but it wouldn't be full power, and the bullet would keyhole. I think it would cause gas erosion if anyone did it much. I would be more concerned with the case not sealing the gases in and getting a faceful of hot gas and powder. It's in the unsafe list too. I checked it.
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Re: Rifle explodes
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2008, 01:48:18 AM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on July 31, 2008, 01:42:20 AM
The 14" was made before the Encore was even invented. I can't remember how long I've had the 10" but not as long.

It can't be good to have a .42 caliber bullet rattling down a .45 caliber barrel. I think it would somewhat work, but it wouldn't be full power, and the bullet would keyhole. I think it would cause gas erosion if anyone did it much. I would be more concerned with the case not sealing the gases in and getting a faceful of hot gas and powder. It's in the unsafe list too. I checked it.

No good, but not dangerous. With that much free space gases will vent out the barrel not out the breech because they will follow the path of least resistance which would be around and past the under size bullet.
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Re: Rifle explodes
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2008, 04:09:07 PM »
Quote from: tombogan03884 on July 31, 2008, 01:48:18 AM
No good, but not dangerous. With that much free space gases will vent out the barrel not out the breech because they will follow the path of least resistance which would be around and past the under size bullet.

That sounds completely logical, and I think you're right. Give it try and tell me what happens.  ;D
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Re: Rifle explodes
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2008, 01:34:41 AM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on July 31, 2008, 04:09:07 PM
That sounds completely logical, and I think you're right. Give it try and tell me what happens.  ;D

Sure, give me $450 to buy a Contender  and I'll let you know how it works out  ;D
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