The Republican Debate ?

[tombogan03884]

Nope, if it isn't one of my preferred candidates I'm going to vote for the most blatant communist I can find and wait for things to collapse so we can start killing the Muslims, Illegals, and liberals.
I've said it before, the Dems don't have a hope in hell of winning this election and they know it, that's why they are running losers like Hillary, and Bernie. Their best back up is Fauxcahontas, and Greasy Joe ?
Their only hope is for the establishment Republicans to throw it away with some piece of shot like Bush, Christie, or Graham. Huckabee is no better.
In that case the only solution is to make the impending collapse come as quick as possible so the dictatorship that will follow can get to work fixing what the dumbassed voters have screwed up.

[Solus]

Nope, if it isn't one of my preferred candidates I'm going to vote for the most blatant communist I can find and wait for things to collapse so we can start killing the Muslims, Illegals, and liberals.
I've said it before, the Dems don't have a hope in hell of winning this election and they know it, that's why they are running losers like Hillary, and Bernie. Their best back up is Fauxcahontas, and Greasy Joe ?
Their only hope is for the establishment Republicans to throw it away with some piece of shot like Bush, Christie, or Graham. Huckabee is no better.
In that case the only solution is to make the impending collapse come as quick as possible so the dictatorship that will follow can get to work fixing what the dumbassed voters have screwed up.

The Ammo box is a crap shoot....where we are likely to be fighting enemies ...both foreign and domestic...

[lhprop1]

Pretty much my preference for candidates, but if you decide not to vote Republican, don't vote Democrat.

Pick a third party.  Libertarians are probably the most established...but still haven't won federal positions, but there is also the Modern Whigs party...and others.

Libertarians do manage to get ballot access in all 50 states..but that doesn't help get them to the debates.

The problem 3rd party's have is that ballot access is very much rigged against them by the two major parties.  Access goes by the number of votes the party earned in a recent election.  Without enough votes, the major portion of a 3rd party's funds go to canvasing for signatures to get on state ballots for presidential races. 

Then, because the same bias applies to getting into any debate, they have very limited funds to get their message to the voters.

So at least put your vote someplace where it might help "strike a blow" to the two sides of the "Establishment" party.

DISCLAIMER:  I saw what Billt is saying as true back in 1991.  I've been a "card carrying" Libertarian since 7/1/91

I'm with Solus on this one. 

If we wanted to truly have an open election, we'd take all of the party affiliations off the ballot and take away straight ticket voting.  It would make people actually have to research who they're voting for and at least become a little bit informed.

As for The Donald, here's my problem with him:

1.  Can he put aside his personal business interests and give his undivided attention needed to run the country?  Personally, I don't think his ego would allow that.
2.  His only platform so far is "Build a wall" and "Make deals".  That doesn't quite cut it. 

Right now, I'm leaning toward Rubio.  I want to like Walker because of how he told the unions to go pound sand, but he looked rough in the debate.

[Timothy]

I think that there are four or five leaders that were on that stage besides The Donald, though he's proven he can make money, is a bully!  How many families has he destroyed in his past?

Cruz is a damn smart fella.

Rubio is young and well spoken.

Walker is a proven, tested Governor.

Fiorina is a very, very smart person..and not a Washington pol.

Jindhal, I've always appreciated his views and values, also a proven Governor..

It's a long process this time.  For all the comedy that is forthcoming, imagine the fun when "Jokin' Joe" gets into the race, and he will!

[tombogan03884]

Rubio is an amnesty supporting POS.
Fiorina supports climate change.
The beauty of voting to collapse the system, which can not stand 16 years of Dem stupidity is that we won't have to gas the liberals, ghetto monkeys, illegals, and Muslims.
The people they put into power will do it and let us laugh and point, just like every other dictator since Napoleon.
Personally, I'm bringing popcorn.

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[billt]

I think that there are four or five leaders that were on that stage besides The Donald, though he's proven he can make money, is a bully!  How many families has he destroyed in his past?

Cruz is a damn smart fella.

Rubio is young and well spoken.

Walker is a proven, tested Governor.

Fiorina is a very, very smart person..and not a Washington pol.

Jindhal, I've always appreciated his views and values, also a proven Governor.

His only platform so far is "Build a wall" and "Make deals".

And not a single one of them will close the border down. If all Trump accomplished in 4 years was to... "Build a wall". He will have done something none of his predecessors were able to accomplish over how many decades? All the rest of them are nothing but more of what we've already had. The room is already full of that smell.

[Timothy]

No one will shut the border down, Bill.  You may as well try yourself, you certainly have plenty of firepower.

Is there any discourse that can be offered that you and Bogan don't shit all over?

Have either of you noticed that basically the participation on this forum is limited to about a dozen people lately?  People must think that unless they toe the "DRTV" line that they're no longer welcome to speak.  Personally, I play here less and less often because what lured me here 7-8 years ago is no longer part of the discussion.

Maybe it's time to go...I can still find time to get laid on occasion!

And, the PATRIOTS STILL SUCK BALLS, Tom!    Superbowl champs or not...

[billt]

Is there any discourse that can be offered that you and Bogan don't shit all over?

Sure. But I don't call, "What's being offered", as being discourse. You're old enough to have seen the same thing I have over the last 4+ decades. So why would you want to keep doing the same thing, (voting for professional politicians), and expecting to get a different result? As I recall, that's called the definition of insanity.

Remember, both Cruz and Rubio support Hispanics, and Bush is married to one.

[Timothy]

I haven't said I'm voting for any of them!  I just said who I won't vote for.

Again, my vote don't mean spit!  Neither will Tom's! 

NH will probably fall to the left as it has most recently.

I'm not against Hispanics!  I'm against ALL illegals, regardless of where they came from..

[billt]

The fact is, regardless of who you vote for, people are fed up with politicians. Who got the biggest bump, and the most attention from the debates? Trump, Fiorina, and Carson. All 3 are NOT politicians. 2 CEO's and a retired surgeon. People want an political outsider. At this point Trump is offering the best tasting flavors.

The stupidity with the dumb ass Republicans, is they should be embracing these people. Instead they are treating them like outsiders, picking them apart with petty bull$h!t. And the result is they, (the Republican establishment), are the ones looking petty. Not Trump and the rest. They're all the same people they've always been. The dumb ass Republicans can't handle that or them. They're biting the hand that is feeding them. Take away Trump, Fiorina, and Carson's points, and you've got jack $h!t left.