Glen Beck Hits It Out Of The Park!

[alfsauve]

You don't have to openly advocate for violent resistance to get the point across. The fact is, while peaceful resolution is always the preferred method of change, sometimes you have to stand. Holding hands and singing songs only gets you so far. I think it was Lord of War? Ian Holms character CORRECTLY stated "bullets change governments far surer than votes."

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We need inspiring leaders. Not ones who tell us it's all lost and it is wrong to take a stand.

And today is the 242nd anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.  One of the first dominoes to fall towards the US's independence.

[tombogan03884]

The things Bill says may be true, but never forget the lessons of history.
The successful Cuban Revolution started with fewer than 50 guys hidingout in the mountains.
Also, the Americanrevolution was made possible by promoting a few staged incidents like the Boston Tea Party, and the Boston massacre.
We are missing chances by not doing the same with things like the Clinton war on your 1st amendment as typified by their massacre of the Branch Davidians.

[billt]

The things Bill says may be true, but never forget the lessons of history.
The successful Cuban Revolution started with fewer than 50 guys hidingout in the mountains.
Also, the Americanrevolution was made possible by promoting a few staged incidents like the Boston Tea Party, and the Boston massacre.
We are missing chances by not doing the same with things like the Clinton war on your 1st amendment as typified by their massacre of the Branch Davidians.

I agree with everything you've said. But the Cuban Revolutionaries HATED the government that was oppressing them. Much the same with the Colonists during the American Revolution. They all had vivid memories of what it was like to be oppressed. So much so they would rather die, than live that way again. And they had the bulk of the Colonists and the Cubans SUPPORTING them, not despising them.

Today in this country there is nothing representing that type of mentality, and thirst for independence and freedom. Except for a few guys like us, who have lived long enough to watch this rotten stench that exists today transpire. Today it's just the opposite. They want MORE government, not LESS. All of these gutless ass wipes are ripe for the picking, and the communist Democrats know it all too well. And they know they can be bought cheap..... With YOUR money. They've been successfully indoctrinating them in our public schools for over half a century. They've finally succeeded in dumbing them down to the point they can never be turned around. They're completely brainwashed into thinking government is the answer to all of their problems. "Generation X and Y", along with all the Millennial's have completely bought into this entire bucket of shit. They think the problem with this country is we don't have enough government to "provide". They've all be well educated by communist teachers and professors to think that. 

This in spite of the fact anyone with an ounce of brains can clearly see the government has been the source of all their problems for that same half century. All you have to do is look at any Democratic controlled city or state in this country. Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Los Angeles, New York under Bill de Blasio, and the list goes on and on. You couldn't create better examples of how big government fails the people. No matter, they all want more.

These people are now the majority. We have become a nation of weak, stupid, lazy pussies that look to the government for everything from "free" health care, education, housing, food, and just about everything else needed to survive in life. There have been few if any protests of Americans complaining about too much government. Let alone one they think is oppressive. It's the exact opposite. They see capitalist Republicans like Trump as the one's who are holding them down. They have all been educated to despise wealth and success as an evil that must be eliminated. The Tea Party has been successfully ridiculed and demonized by the liberals, and the communist media wherever possible.

The best we can do today is get a few thousand to follow Trump around, cheering wildly. But they'll be silenced in a general election when the government loving, ass licking, liberal Democrats come out of the woodwork to keep their freebies coming. This country has been bought by Democrats, and paid for with your tax dollars. And it's only going to get worse. Because you now have a nation full of idiots who think a free cell phone, or an EBT card represents more "freedom" than they could possibly achieve on their own. And the really sad part is they've all become so stupid, for the most part they're right.   

[tombogan03884]

That is NOT  true, most Cubans thought Castro was a joke since the Cuban people had very little reason to hate Batista, at that time Cuba enjoyed the highest standard of living in the Caribbean region. Also, III% comes from the number of supporters of the American revolution. It is a historical fact that loyalist regiments consistently out recruited the revolutionaries. In fact, one of those regiments still exists, the Royal Green Jackets were originally the "Loyal Americans", one of the rifle, as opposed to standard musket armed, regiments.

[billt]

That is NOT  true, most Cubans thought Castro was a joke since the Cuban people had very little reason to hate Batista, at that time Cuba enjoyed the highest standard of living in the Caribbean region. Also, III% comes from the number of supporters of the American revolution. It is a historical fact that loyalist regiments consistently out recruited the revolutionaries. In fact, one of those regiments still exists, the Royal Green Jackets were originally the "Loyal Americans", one of the rifle, as opposed to standard musket armed, regiments.

And today you have a nation of over 300 MILLION people. A full one third of which are flat broke. And almost half of which are getting something "free" from the government. 3% of 300 million equates to 9 million people. Do you honestly think you'll get 9 million people to pick up arms against this government? You would be hard pressed to get 1/10th that many to show up for an armed freedom march on Washington. And they wouldn't have to fire a shot to do it. Hell, the NRA can barely get 5 million to join. And there are over 300 million guns owned in this nation.

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[tombogan03884]

Numbers are irrelevant, what counts is leadership and proper promotion of the cause. Just like any other product the marketing is the key.

[billt]

Numbers are irrelevant, what counts is leadership and proper promotion of the cause. Just like any other product the marketing is the key.

Perhaps. But regardless of how good the end product or service is, it's meaningless if no one is buying it. Believe me, I wish things were different. But every day I'm seeing more evidence it's not.

[tombogan03884]

You have it backwards. The quality or utility of the product means nothing compared to the marketing.
Look at things like the pet rock .

[billt]

Look at things like the pet rock .

You can't compare the sale of a silly, gimmick item like a "Pet Rock", to selling armed revolution. One requires you to do nothing but spend a few dollars, buy it, and look at it. The other requires you to lay your life on the line for something you truly believe in. They don't. This nation has gone down the tubes way too far for anything like that to transpire. As I said, most love the government, and want to elect a communist who will give them more of it. Just look at Hillary and Sanders poll numbers.

You had it right before. Let the whole thing collapse, (because it's going to anyway), then, when they're all starving, they MIGHT realize the communists had it all wrong. But until then it's like a room full of cocaine addicts. Until they all hit rock bottom, there is no use trying to convince them otherwise.

[JC5123]

Bill, I agree with your thinking, but why do you feel the need to convince people who are of no consequence? You are right, half of the country is on the dole. So what kind of a role do you think they would play? They are going to continue their professional couch sitting until the checks stop coming. Then they will riot.

That leaves you with 150 million people. Lets say 2/3 are capable of actually participating. Now you are down to 100 million. Now we take 3% of those who would take up arms, and maybe another million that would actively support them?

With proper leadership you now have a 4 million person army. How many in the military would quietly support them? Half? As of Dec. 31 2013 there were 1,369,532 active duty military personnel. Remember at it's peak Al Qaeda had somewhere around 10,000 actual fighters? And has managed to keep the fight going for 14 years. The potatoes were sick of war after a couple of years. How long do you think they will support their masters when the fight is in their front yard?

I fear that we have reached the point where an errant spark will blow the whole thing. I also believe that this was the plan all along. Now that civilian disarmament has been put on the table, unless .gov backs down, I think it's only a matter of time before we will start to see pockets of active resistance, and once they get started, .gov will clamp down, creating a snowball effect.

Take this for what it's worth. It is only my opinion, and something I really hope we can find a way to avoid.