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Which would you vote for as the ultimate fighting handgun?

Glock
23 (32.4%)
1911
48 (67.6%)

Total Members Voted: 63


Author Topic: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911  (Read 44307 times)

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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2008, 09:08:34 PM »
I really expected the vote to be closer on this. Where are all the Glockenspiel people?

I don't care what caliber my handgun is either as long as the first number in the caliber is 4 and the second number IS NOT 0.
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2008, 09:15:52 PM »
I really expected the vote to be closer on this. Where are all the Glockenspiel people?

I don't care what caliber my handgun is either as long as the first number in the caliber is 4 and the second number IS NOT 0.

I have several 4 caliber pistols, some DO end in "0" and they rock and roll with the best of them. In the right hands, calibers that start with "3" and end in "7" aren't bad either.

Also, .the S&W .46"0"  ain't bad either. 8)
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2008, 04:04:41 PM »
Jumbo, the rails can be taken out for use with the CCU and then put back in.  They have to be so that the owner can install larger rails as the old ones ware.

M25, I have owned several bone stock 1911's that would feed 200 SWC's and all HP's except the "SPEER Flying Ashtray" every time.  The Glock is not the only reliable SA.

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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2008, 06:55:39 PM »
Jumbo, the rails can be taken out for use with the CCU and then put back in.  They have to be so that the owner can install larger rails as the old ones ware.

M25, I have owned several bone stock 1911's that would feed 200 SWC's and all HP's except the "SPEER Flying Ashtray" every time.  The Glock is not the only reliable SA.

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I know the Acc-U-Rails pop right out but I don't know if the frame rails are milled down to make room for them, or if only the slide is milled to fit. I thought both parts were milled down but maybe not. I should call Doug Jones and find out. That would be cool if I can get the Acc-U-Rails and still use my CCU. I would rather do that instead of a squeezing and peening job that won't last as long. BTW the CCU probably gives it 40% more muzzle energy. If that's not enough they make a .460 Rowland CCU too. People have taken big bears and stuff with them. You can't get a .460 Glock. The CCU has so many accessories now you can even make it look like an M4 carbine if you want.
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2008, 06:59:09 PM »

... the S&W .46"0"  ain't bad either. 8)

I agree, but the second number isn't a zero either.
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2008, 07:10:59 PM »
I like both and I have owned both. Currently I own a GLOCK. I am not totally crazy about the grip angle but it is very reliable compared to a 1911. The 1911 has been around for a100 years. You would think that should be enough time tp make one that doesnt need "500 round break in" or trip to the smithy for a "reliability package"
When you truly look at the two side by side without the glasses of nostalgia the GLOCK wins

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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2008, 07:28:49 PM »
I agree, but the second number isn't a zero either.

Alright, I'll agree with that. But only on the technicality of marketing and sales. ;)
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2008, 08:38:30 PM »
I like both and I have owned both. Currently I own a GLOCK. I am not totally crazy about the grip angle but it is very reliable compared to a 1911. The 1911 has been around for a100 years. You would think that should be enough time tp make one that doesnt need "500 round break in" or trip to the smithy for a "reliability package"
When you truly look at the two side by side without the glasses of nostalgia the GLOCK wins

I don't know if a Glock needs any improvements but a lot of Glock owners buy aftermarket parts for them. None of my 1911s have needed a 500 round break in or a reliability package either, whatever the heck that is. If they both work that good out of the box I still don't see how the Glock is better. If I had both to compare side by side it would help but no one will give me a Glock and I can't afford to buy one for testing. They're better than some 1911s no doubt, but none of mine have been off brands or cheap knockoffs.
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2008, 10:00:30 PM »
None of my 1911s have needed a 500 round break in or a reliability package either

Mine didn't either, and even after a "tweak" here or there, there was no "break in necessary."

I had my S&W 1911 on layaway, but could shoot it and turn it back in until paid for, for 2 months I put over 500 rds. through it, without any pre-cleaning, lubing, care or maint. shot it, turned it in, shot it dirty, turned it in, shot it dirtier, turned it in, etc,...

It didn't let me down once.

It shot what fed, and for 99.999% of pistol owners, that's what is expected.
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2008, 04:13:21 AM »
None of my 1911s have needed a 500 round break in or a reliability package either

Mine didn't either, and even after a "tweak" here or there, there was no "break in necessary."

I had my S&W 1911 on layaway, but could shoot it and turn it back in until paid for, for 2 months I put over 500 rds. through it, without any pre-cleaning, lubing, care or maint. shot it, turned it in, shot it dirty, turned it in, shot it dirtier, turned it in, etc,...

It didn't let me down once.

It shot what fed, and for 99.999% of pistol owners, that's what is expected.
This is nice to hear. The guys that work at our range are always talking the 1911s by Smith and Sig down. I thought that maybe it was just that they didn't like the external extractors. Anybody else with good Sig or Smith 1911s?

 

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