Why Do People Constantly Complain About The Glock's Grip Angle ??

[billt]

I've never understood this. And the more I hear it, the less I understand it, and the more foolish it sounds. All this complaining how Glock pistols have, "the wrong grip angle". What is a right one? Just because something is different than what you're used to does not make it, "wrong". I hear these people constantly complain that when they point a Glock they're looking at the top of the slide, instead of the sights. And somehow because of that the grip angle is, "wrong". Well how about this for a novel idea... Move your wrist so the sights are actually where they're supposed to be.

These same people don't complain when they transfer from a Ruger or Colt single action to a semi auto. Why not? The grip angle is far more acutely different. It seems they only whine when it's a Glock. It makes zero sense. The 1911 grip angle (all 1911 variants, Springfield XD, etc.) is more nearly square to the slide (about 18 degrees off square), while the Glock grip angle (Luger, Steyr M series, H&K P7, Ruger Mk II, etc.) is more raked (about 22 degrees off square). Are these people really trying to say they can't shoot the gun properly because the grip angle is different by only 4 degrees? That's ridiculous.

If you don't like the looks of the gun, that's fine. If you think it's too expensive to fit you're budget, that's also an acceptable reason to not want one. Even if for some reason you like your pistols with 27 different levers, buttons, and grip safeties. I can understand that. But to whine about the grip angle is just plain foolish. People aren't born with fused wrist joints. I own all but countless handguns in most every conceivable action type, size, and grip. I can go from one to the other by simply adjusting my grip and my wrist to suit that particular handgun.

And it's not as if Glock just decided to manufacture this pistol on a whim, without giving any thought to the grip, or the angle. Gaston Glock consulted many doctors, and did many studies concerning the physiology of people and the use of their hands before settling on the grip angle of the Glock. I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but it would seem after all of that, along with the fact millions of Glock handguns have been successfully put into service over the last 30 years, that there is nothing "wrong" with the grip angle. Only with the shooters who cannot adjust to using the gun properly.

[Majer]

The grip angle doesn't bother me,it's those damn finger groove bumps that I hate.I refuse to buy a pistol that I have to take a file to the grip frame to make it comfortable.

[alfsauve]

Considering the variety of guns I shoot, grip angle has never been something that has concerned me.   Of course I'm just an amateur.  If I were a pro at shooting steel, then all my guns would need an identical grip angle because so much is riding on that first instinctive shot.   But like you said, one or the other isn't right or wrong, just different.



THAT SAID:  What I hate about the Glock is the trigger.  It hangs up sometimes.  I've been told it's because I have my finger on the trigger wrong.    And I will admit it happens less as I put more rounds downrange, but still it's such a minor difference in placement of the finger that causes it.  For that reason I wonder if this could be a detriment in a high stress situation. 

The Glock trigger also rubs the bottom of my trigger finger raw.  After a 100 or so rounds it's down right painful.   I have what I call a Glock Callus on my trigger finger.   I don't get this with my M&Ps or any of my revolvers.   This winter I may take an emery board to some of the rougher spots to see if I can alleviate this.

[billt]

Agree about the trigger. Glock has a lot of strong points. The trigger isn't one of them. Then again these are service weapons, not target pistols.

[alfsauve]

Agree about the trigger. Glock has a lot of strong points. The trigger isn't one of them. Then again these are service weapons, not target pistols.

Just the opposite I'd think.  Not talking about the crispness or over-travel, but that a trigger locks up and can't be pulled because the finger is resting on it just slightly differently.   Such finickiness can be tolerated in a target pistol where you have the time and where-with-all to adjust.  In a service pistol it needs to go bang no matter how the finger is positioned.  Even more so under stress and loss of fine motor skills.

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[tombogan03884]

Bill must have never shot aP 38 That angle is just WRONG
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 Never saw any problem with the Glock grip angle, double stack makes it a bit FAT for my stubby fingers.

[ellis4538]

Billt,  IMHO something that is advertised as "perfection" and isn't deserves to be criticized.  The Glock came along during the period when the 1911 ruled.  You would think that GG would have designed the Glock with a grip angle closer to the 1911 so that it would satisfy more people!  As for the finger grooves, if the Gen 1 was "perfection" why did they add FG to the Gen 2 and why are they going back to nonFG frames?  The grip angle doesn't bother me because I am an old revo shooter and the Glock has a grip angle closer to the revo.  The finger grooves do bother me!

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Richard

PS:  If the Glock is "perfection" why don't they give it a decent set of sturdy usable sights?

[TAB]

as a long time 1911 shooter, the grip angle is wrong.


I can grab a 1911, close my eyes, raise it to target level, open them and be on target.

I can not do that with a glock.

is some of that me, yes, but not all.   glocks grip angle is more for euro tastes and shooting practices.

[Rastus]

Friends don't let friends buy Blocks. 

[robert69]

I took a fine file to the inside of the trigger frame years ago because of a sore finger.
For the trigger, there is a after market trigger called "The Edge" trigger. It is a competition trigger.
It is very easy to install, and works GREAT.  One of my daughters shoots 15 round
groups that are at 1 inch at 15 yards.  This is a gen 3 model 35. The trigger came from glocktriggers.com.