Why Do People Constantly Complain About The Glock's Grip Angle ??

[billt]

There is no reason for people not to be able to shoot a Glock well, that you can blame on the gun. And this includes the grip angle. (Which is about the same as a Luger, which is considered to be one of the most natural pointing pistols in the world). You should be able to shoot them ALL well.

You could give Paul McCartney or Eric Clapton ANY guitar, and they'll play the $h!t out of it until the strings break. They may say they prefer a different type or style of guitar, but they can play any one they pick up well. Because they are musicians who know how to play, period. Just as a good pistol shooter can shoot ANY handgun he picks up.

[tombogan03884]

Doesn't mean they won't btch like old ladies about any little difference between the guitar they're playing and the one they usually play.
I'm surprised the long time Luger,  or .22 shooters aren't complaining about the 1911 grip angle.
As for Glock sites and triggers, both are replaceable.
Finger grooves is simple enough, enough people wanted them to make it worth doing.
Gaston only has one motivation and that is selling guns.
He built the best gun he could come up with, not because he gives a crap about guns or shooting, but because reliable guns sell better.

[TAB]

There is no reason for people not to be able to shoot a Glock well, that you can blame on the gun. And this includes the grip angle. (Which is about the same as a Luger, which is considered to be one of the most natural pointing pistols in the world). You should be able to shoot them ALL well.

You could give Paul McCartney or Eric Clapton ANY guitar, and they'll play the $h!t out of it until the strings break. They may say they prefer a different type or style of guitar, but they can play any one they pick up well. Because they are musicians who know how to play, period. Just as a good pistol shooter can shoot ANY handgun he picks up.

I can assure you, you give them a full size concert necked classical guitar with gut stringsand they will have a hard time playing it and thier hands willl hurt.  They are quite literally a 2x4.

They are too use to playing on thin necked guitars.  Just like if I take a 34oz framing hammer and give it too a framer that is use to a 28oz.  Can they use it?  Sure, will they be as fast? Nope and will hurt more at tge end of the day.

I run a 26oz weight forward hammer( think star trek inspired, it would fit in perfect on thier set.)  every time I go too the framer it takes several thosand nails to where I can actually set the nail in 2-3 hits.  Its a completely different feel and arch on the swing.

There is a reason the industry has gone to wieght forward and ultra light wieght ti hammers.  Faster swings= more force, less damage too the man.   No, you really don't want too know what guys are spending on hammers these days.  $200 too start.  My wieght forward ti probably cost more then I could buy a leo turn in glock.   Long gone are tge days of waffle faced steel with would handles.  Don't even get me started on the barilium copper models for power plant use...  you could buy a custom 1911 for their cost.

[Rastus]

I remember when fiberglass handle hammers came out way long ago.  The "old guys" made fun of them and my dad used his fiberglass handle hammer long after the "old guys" had to change out a couple of wood handles.

My wife has the Glock 19 as a carry.  I can shoot it but I prefer my full sized M&P or...and you "old guys" here remember the hub-bub my Ruger SR-9. 

Several thousand rounds through two SR-9's and not a failure.  The $19.95 Ghost trigger connector created the absolute best trigger reset I have in anything and made the pull more than acceptable.  For me reset is where it is at.

Thread drift.  The main thing to remember here, "Friends don't let friends buy Blocks."   

[MikeBjerum]

Billt,  IMHO something that is advertised as "perfection" and isn't deserves to be criticized.  The Glock came along during the period when the 1911 ruled.  You would think that GG would have designed the Glock with a grip angle closer to the 1911 so that it would satisfy more people!  As for the finger grooves, if the Gen 1 was "perfection" why did they add FG to the Gen 2 and why are they going back to nonFG frames?  The grip angle doesn't bother me because I am an old revo shooter and the Glock has a grip angle closer to the revo.  The finger grooves do bother me!

JMHOFWIW

Richard

PS:  If the Glock is "perfection" why don't they give it a decent set of sturdy usable sights?

The 1911 was and is a very popular pistol, but to say "it ruled" is assuming the Europeans liked what we had in the United States.  The Glock is a European firearm!  This is also the reason it is based on a 9mm Luger (9x19) foundation.

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[MikeBjerum]

If you have a Glock, and if you have issues with the grip angle, and if you are keeping it, try the following:

Warning:  Basic instruction to follow!

1.  Apply firm correct grip of pistol with dominate/strong hand;
2.  Draw pistol from holster;
3.  Apply supporting grip with support/weak hand;
4.  Apply proper gripping pressure (70% support/30% strong);
5.  Raise pistol sights to eye level with head and neck in an erect position;
6.  While maintaining sight alignment, press pistol forward toward target;
7.  Dry fire;
8.  Repeat, repeat, repeat, until you can present the sights on target instinctively.

If you can't accomplish this, trade the gun off!  Or, find a new hobby or self defense tool.

I am not really a Glock fan (especially the finger groves), but I have one.  Glock is a quality firearm, and functions well.  If you have an issue with the Glock it is most likely  that the gun is just not right for you - Not that the gun is designed and/or  engineered wrong.

[TAB]

I remember when fiberglass handle hammers came out way long ago.  The "old guys" made fun of them and my dad used his fiberglass handle hammer long after the "old guys" had to change out a couple of wood handles.

My wife has the Glock 19 as a carry.  I can shoot it but I prefer my full sized M&P or...and you "old guys" here remember the hub-bub my Ruger SR-9. 

Several thousand rounds through two SR-9's and not a failure.  The $19.95 Ghost trigger connector created the absolute best trigger reset I have in anything and made the pull more than acceptable.  For me reset is where it is at.

Thread drift.  The main thing to remember here, "Friends don't let friends buy Blocks."   

my weight forward is a fiber renforced nylon type material.   sadly the company that makes it, no longer makes it in the 26 oz size with out a "cut" face( think high tech waffles)  which I don't want for an every day hammer.   I want to be able to use it on things like chisels and nail set with out screwing them up.  they also moved away from the more recetanglar head to a round one so I can't just put the only hardend smooth face on the ti frame.

yes, I called them and offered them twice retail if they could make me another one.  no dice, all the tooling was long gone.   I am going to be very sad when it breaks.  had it about 10 years now.

[ellis4538]

m58. I should have worded my post "the Glock came along in the US when the 1911 ruled in competition".  The 1911 did rule in competition at the time.  The law enforcement community accepted the Glock because it has a grip angle similar to the revo many of them were used to.

I will also agree that GG was only interested in making money/selling his pistols but to use the term Glock Perfection.....I don't know.

Richard

[TAB]

m58. I should have worded my post "the Glock came along in the US when the 1911 ruled in competition".  The 1911 did rule in competition at the time.  The law enforcement community accepted the Glock because it has a grip angle similar to the revo many of them were used to.

I will also agree that GG was only interested in making money/selling his pistols but to use the term Glock Perfection.....I don't know.

Richard

no, most lea   adopted the glock because it was dirt cheap.  under $300 a unit, with mags, lots of free spare parts and training.  I kid you not, you could not pay the hourly rate for a machinest to build the thing for what they charge a lea. for a pistol

[GEvens]

Grip angle doesn't really bother me either.  Finger "bumps" do.  Glock had to put the "bumps" on the grip to earn enough points to be able to import the gun into the United States.  The new guns without the "bumps" are being manufactured in the US so the import points do not apply.  I had a G23 that I sent out to have the "bumps" removed.  They are still on my G19, but the spacing seems to be a little different...at least my ring finger doesn't hurt from being pounded against the "bump" when I shoot a lot of rounds.