NEW FORUM RULES 9/07/08 — Please Read!

[wisconsin]

I'm a little surprised that some of the threads that went a little too far stayed as long as they did. And if some posts or threads were deleted I did not catch on that this was being done. However I work very hard for my money so when I put it down my money for an item and it doesn't work I expect the Co. to make good. Call me old fashion maybe I was raise a different way. But when a product fails and they all do at one time or another I expect the Co. to respond at the very least. Call that the new age of the internet. If your going to advertise here at DRTV as a Co. you should take the time to give us some feed back on your product if its starting to get bashed. The problem as I see it with any forums and its members is, some days we have too much coffee, its been raining too many days , had a fight with our better half, bought a firearm that isn't working proper, got to work and got blind sided with a crap job etc. Now you go online and that becomes your vehicle for your anger. It happens and we all do it from time to time. Sometimes someone has to step in and say OK! enough is enough stop it or this thread will be gone. Last time I remember when as a kid I screwed up I was told so by my parents. I still screw up at times and don't mind being told so. I'm not above being corrected for bad behavior. Its a growing proccess. I'll say it again as I have said it before DRTV has a different flavor thats why I will keep coming here..

[Rastus]

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[m25operator]

I've been in automotive repair for 30 years, and to repair automobiles, it takes tools, some tools are good and some are not so good, and some stink, the difference since the internet age has begun, has been industry insiders, reps from the companies can now interact with the consumer, if they will go to the trouble. Michael, could you be the liason between us and the provider, no matter which company it is, on the automotive forums the reps lurk and see what the opinion of their product is, and sometimes answer directly to the consumer. I think any manufacturer who takes this to heart, will make a better product based on the consumers needs, it is a double edged sword, I know from my job with the public, but if you give them what they want, that is half the battle, if there is a problem, the consumer needs to know it's going to be fixed or that is the way it is, it allows them to make sound decisions.

I would definitely like to invite the manufacturers representatives to answer the call,  everybody puts out something that has a unintended consequence once in a while, if it is a good company, they are going to correct it.

Maybe a new forum for just this?

[jaybet]

I have a Sheltie-mix but none of the vets can figure out what the rest of the mix is. He's 50 pounds and Shelties are only 20 pounds. I have a weird dog with a head too small for his body but I love him.

Had a sheltie that we just put down last winter...a real sweetheart of a dog. Now her friend is our only pooch- a siberian husky, about 12 years old, blind, and a little "teched" from being poisoned a few years ago. Again though, what a sweetheart.
But a poodle is a poodle is a poodle, although I hear they don't shed. That's big time for a husky owner.

Twyacht- thanks. We've got a lot of your biz around here too and they are hurting. I have a lot of friends who just don't do so many trips anymore. Anyway, I appreciate the whole Gunga Din thing. i am gonna zen that beeeootch into submission. Or not- the MB M&P...always wanted one of those.

Not to stir the pot, butwith all this Kumbaya stuff going on there is still one party strangely absent. With all of the warmth we offer each other here, there's a defening silence from the manufacturer's side of this whole thing. What would be wrong with a certain company making an offer like MB has. (or even making contact or responding, for that matter)  While the DRTV community grows tighter and stronger (in my opinion) the corporation is missing an IMMENSE opportunity to build business, and it seems that they just don't get it. That's disappointing.

Good shooting everyone!

Just went back and read M25's comments and....well, look above...this is the age of communication and I guess some businesses just don't get it.

Hey Rastus...it's EVERYTHING you say. That's why everybody listens! Or as Haz says, "Kumbayaa".

[Rastus]

OK...I got caught up in the dis too.  Sorry, should not have done that......know better.

It was out of disappointment rather than being upset over losing some coin.  That was going to be my carry.  I'm fortunate to have 3 or so CZ's, a couple of FN's, a couple of S&W's, a Colt or two, Taurus, a couple of Kimbers, a brace or two of Brownings and who knows what else and the unnamed gun was my favorite.  Had at least two more to buy...one for my eldest and was waiting on at least one compact...maybe a couple on top of that with different calibers.

Maybe after the USPSA is over at the range Toothman can do something with the trigger.

Jay, if it's works I'll PM you....

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[Hazcat]

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YES!!!

[Rastus]

Oh.

[wisconsin]

MB + jaybethel = Dam  this thread just got real interesting

[tombogan03884]

That was a heck of an offer MB, and shows that you BELIEVE in the products that you advertise. It shows, to para phrase Tom Gresham, If you sell it, you USE it, not just get paid for it.
Jay, dry fire the crap out of it as well, use the "Wall Drill that they have video of , it will help loosen the tight bits as well as help you get use to the trigger.
On a side note, something I was going to ask about before this rule thread started, You guy's who Don't like that trigger, how much shooting have you done with double action only or striker fired pistols ? I'm not trying to be wise, but I know from my own experience that the vast majority of my pistol shooting has been in single action mode, either semi auto' like the 1911 or Tokarev, P-38 and PA 63 which all have hammers that can be manually thumbed back, or revolvers in single action mode, therefore when I shoot a Glock, Taurus Millenium,etc. my first thought is "Wow, this trigger sucks" but then I have to correct my self and say , " This trigger is not single action, it has a lot of stuff to do"
Anyway, it was just a thought. 

[ellis4538]

Jay, I agree with you about Ruger being quiet on your problem.  I know it is difficult to answer every concern/gripe but as much as you have stated your dissatisfaction it might have been a good thing if someone from Ruger lerking in the wings would have stepped forward and responded.  I can't say I've seen that much on any forum but it might start a trend.  As a matter of fact, I believe the only time I have seen it was when a member who just happened to work for Dillon responded to problems.

JMHO

Richard

PS:  MB, it was very good of you making that offer.