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What do you think of the Coronavirus outbreak in China?

A big deal for China.
0 (0%)
Not a big deal for China.
0 (0%)
Coming soon to a town you know.
2 (16.7%)
We won't have any problems in the US with it.
0 (0%)
Time to get prepared just in case.
2 (16.7%)
I am prepared for this Wuhan Chinese Flu.
5 (41.7%)
I am going to be ready if the US economy collapses in mid-April.
3 (25%)

Total Members Voted: 12


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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #60 on: March 27, 2020, 09:13:07 am »
Last night the blurb from some talking head, trying to make a name for himself, was that the US had passed China in cases.  I knew that was false, but didn't know what he meant to say.  I guess he did make a name for himself, but not the type he wanted.
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #61 on: March 27, 2020, 12:23:49 pm »
Here is a link to a "The Epoch Times" coverage of the virus.  The paper, founded by a dissident who escaped China and published now in several countries claims that China's numbers are falsified to be 1/10 of actual.

Here is a link to the latest issue of their virus coverage...nope it works....note the *'s () around China's numbers.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/ccp-virus?utm_source=Epoch+Times+Newsletters&utm_campaign=573bf23fee-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_03_26_10_11&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4fba358ecf-573bf23fee-238983317
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #62 on: March 27, 2020, 12:33:49 pm »
Just like when they talk about  gun deaths, they include suicide.

Yet no one ever calls them out for thier bs.  It bet if i was to start a news  channel that did nothing but call out the others bs, it would be the higheat rated news show of all time.
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #63 on: March 27, 2020, 01:41:34 pm »
Just like when they talk about  gun deaths, they include suicide.

Yet no one ever calls them out for thier bs.  It bet if i was to start a news  channel that did nothing but call out the others bs, it would be the higheat rated news show of all time.


Yep. The MSM leaves out the Covid-19 co-morbidity rates.

For example, the biggest hot-spot in our region of the state is about thirty miles west in a metro area of about 80k. That city has the highest death rate, but what they fail to mention is that of those who have died while having the virus, over 90% also have other significant health issues like HIV, COPD, heart disease, over 70 in age, etc. Most of these folks would die if they had the flu.

I'm certainly not saying to overlook the seriousness of this virus, but another thing concerning the media in ginning-up all the panic is that they are neglecting to mention that the flu is still more deadly at this point.
Based on the CDC median range of deaths (30k-60k), on average 188 people die per day of the flu in the "designated" eight month season from October to May.

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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2020, 02:27:30 pm »
I made the point, asked the question, whatever, concerning the numbers:  These are confirmed tested cases.  How does that compare with actual total cases, and what about the disparity of deaths between the nations?  When asking on a media outlet you are setting your self up for being a "stupid Putin Trumpkin Goob troll."
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2020, 07:17:16 pm »
Everyone I know who has had business in China the last 20-30 years says if the news is good it is 10X overstated and if it is bad then it is 10X understated.  Not surprised.
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #66 on: March 28, 2020, 06:53:04 pm »
Nancy Pelosi and company sided with the Russians and the Saudi's and stripped the Strategic Petroleum Reserve crude oil acquisition out of the aid package that just passed.  The equity world is abandoning O&G development in a way never seen before and the word from that world is that maybe 10 of the 50 largest US oil companies will be open for business at the end of the year.  Gee, thanks for that support congress?  Expect $150 to $200 a barrel within 2 years...and it will still be the oil company's fault....of course.

On another front, I think overall here in the US that we may need to approach all work and the economy as was done in factories and industry after the Civil War and up to WWII.  A certain number of people will go to work and some of us will die.  That's what people did to improve things.  Not death by virus of course,  but from poor and dangerous practices, unsafe conditions, etc.  It was just anticipated, so long as there were not a rash of deaths, that someone was going to die at work.  I'm certainly willing to do that to help my children's future.

I believe Trump is right and if we're not back at it by mid-April the Wuhan flu will be way down on the list of what's important.  This nation needs to get back to work or it could be lights out for the USA.  I've heard economic projections and Easter plus or minus 72 hours may be a tipping point for total US economic collapse.  Let that soak in for a minute.  And before you say it can't happen here put your head in gear and flush out why you think "the norm" still exists.  The basis behind everything is changing.

That's really where Trump is coming from....not from medical ignorance on his part but on enlightenment that this cannot continue.  And I hate that the talking heads are calling the aid package a stimulus bill.  It's not to stimulate the economy it's to save the economy. 

If everything does go to hell, the dims supporters in the big metro areas will get the worst of it.  There has already been some minor looting in Tulsa.

I started this thread way back towards the end of January.  I wanted to start it the first week of January, but for sure everyone would have thought I was a loon.  I hope someone here took it to heart and made a few early preparations......and think about what it is you can do after mid-April if things go sideways.

I reset and changed the poll.....
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #67 on: March 28, 2020, 08:31:32 pm »
About you think you have seen the full depth of stupidity, the dam bursts and you darn near drown.

Reading some mainstream news tonight, and the level of blame is unbelievable.  From the bitch mayor of New Orleans claiming it is Trumps fault that she held Mardi Gras and now has an outbreak of Corona, to the a-hole in New York claiming that he has no ventilators and then says he has ventilators in a warehouse and then claims the hospitals don't have ventilators because they don't need them yet (if you can translate that let me know), to the sheep on the street accepting the claims of hospital administrators saying that is the federal government's job to warehouse all of their supplies and equipment for them.  By warehouse I mean purchase, maintain, and handout for free when they need it.

The idiots on the street, fed and fueled by the media, are pure Socialists.

Boys and girls, load the guns and bolt the doors.  Do you have your Bug Out Gear ready?  Do you have your basic household stocks, including food, in place?  This is going to get UGLY fast.
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #68 on: March 28, 2020, 10:34:09 pm »
Rastus, can you provide link for minor looting in Tulsa?

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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #69 on: March 29, 2020, 12:48:06 am »
Nancy Pelosi and company sided with the Russians and the Saudi's and stripped the Strategic Petroleum Reserve crude oil acquisition out of the aid package that just passed.  The equity world is abandoning O&G development in a way never seen before and the word from that world is that maybe 10 of the 50 largest US oil companies will be open for business at the end of the year.  Gee, thanks for that support congress?  Expect $150 to $200 a barrel within 2 years...and it will still be the oil company's fault....of course.

On another front, I think overall here in the US that we may need to approach all work and the economy as was done in factories and industry after the Civil War and up to WWII.  A certain number of people will go to work and some of us will die.  That's what people did to improve things.  Not death by virus of course,  but from poor and dangerous practices, unsafe conditions, etc.  It was just anticipated, so long as there were not a rash of deaths, that someone was going to die at work.  I'm certainly willing to do that to help my children's future.

I believe Trump is right and if we're not back at it by mid-April the Wuhan flu will be way down on the list of what's important.  This nation needs to get back to work or it could be lights out for the USA.  I've heard economic projections and Easter plus or minus 72 hours may be a tipping point for total US economic collapse.  Let that soak in for a minute.  And before you say it can't happen here put your head in gear and flush out why you think "the norm" still exists.  The basis behind everything is changing.

That's really where Trump is coming from....not from medical ignorance on his part but on enlightenment that this cannot continue.  And I hate that the talking heads are calling the aid package a stimulus bill.  It's not to stimulate the economy it's to save the economy. 

If everything does go to hell, the dims supporters in the big metro areas will get the worst of it.  There has already been some minor looting in Tulsa.

I started this thread way back towards the end of January.  I wanted to start it the first week of January, but for sure everyone would have thought I was a loon.  I hope someone here took it to heart and made a few early preparations......and think about what it is you can do after mid-April if things go sideways.

I reset and changed the poll.....

Well...poop!  The forum software ate my reply.

Anywhoo...Rastus, I work in oil refining so you definitely got my attention.

The forum software doesn't like my pics either.

They were screen caps from either 4 chan or Reddit where some anonymous dude was talking mainly about the stock market being affected by the coronavirus.  All these anonymous posts were made on January 31st.  One of them specifically said Italy was going to be really hit hard.

One of the other screen caps said that U.S.  deaths from Covid19 are going to pale in comparison to the deaths from civil unrest...from basically trying to implement martial law.

Sooooo....if this anonymous dude was so accurate about his Italy prediction, I am wondering if he is going to be that accurate with his civil unrest prediction ???

 

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