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tombogan03884

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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2020, 09:21:04 AM »
Hey TAB, 7mm was developed for shooting Turks and Frenchmen, not deer.  :)

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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2020, 05:33:42 AM »
It doesn't take a larger caliber to stop cheese-eating surrender monkeys. I'll leave it to someone else to figure out the minimum effective caliber. 
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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2020, 09:14:32 AM »
The French have always had good gear, and troops.
Often better than Germany.
It's command mentality that screws them.
Take a careful look at their history you'll find they win little battles, it's just wars they lose.

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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2020, 02:37:09 PM »
The French have always had good gear, and troops.
Often better than Germany.
It's command mentality that screws them.
Take a careful look at their history you'll find they win little battles, it's just wars they lose.

The Chauchat was anything but good gear and it didn't take them long after the war to replace it with something that looks like a BAR. Wikipedia sums it up its replacement in the first line of the article on the FM 24/29 light machine gun. "The Fusil-mitrailleur Modèle 1924 M29 was the standard light machine gun of the French Army from 1925 until the 1960s and was in use until 2000-2006 with the National Gendarmerie." Other than the Chauchat the French were successfully on/near the leading edge of firearms technology for a long time. They had metallic cartridges with smokeless powder and jacketed bullets when most of the world was still lobbing lead at each other with black powder.

I like to give the French a hard time but I honestly believe there would be no United States of America without them supplying us with arms, money, and whatever else it took to piss off the British, because that was their thing. We'd just be another commonwealth of "the empire on which the sun never sets". The British might still have an empire, bigger than ever before, if we were fighting with them instead of against them. But they behaved too much like our current government and had to be spanked.
""It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency." - George Washington. Letter to Alexander Hamilton, Friday, May 02, 1783

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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2020, 04:48:26 PM »
Big Frank, you are dead wrong.
The Chauchat was the best automatic rifle of it's day.
It was the only automatic rifle of it's day.Every other designer had the Chauchat as a starting point including JMB.
And the gun was no prize but that wasn't why the French dumped it. The Belgians kept it well into the 30's by choice.
The problem the French had was the 8 mm Lebel. Rimmed, double tapered necked down 11mm Gras with a bullet stolen from Rubin it was the worst cartridge of WWI and held up French arms research for a generation.
The Char B tank was better than anything the Germans had, and their planes were just as good.
I'll still give the French crap.
Any one America owed went to the Guillotine .
You DO know, don't you , that we fought an undeclared naval war against Napoleon 12 years before we refought the British.
The only ones to blame for losing the British empire  are socialist "Little Englanders" who worked a full century to destroy the work of Clive , Raffles, and Rhodes.  They have become welfare state sodomites.

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Re: Binary trigger
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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2020, 02:09:38 AM »
The Chauchat may have been the best light machine gun of its time by virtue of being the only one, but I wouldn't call it a success. Due to dirt and mud entering the action, mostly through the open sided mags, and difficulties caused by the 8mm Lebel cartridge, it was a problem child that a lot of our guys tossed aside the first chance they had to get something else, like a bolt-action rifle. If it was really that good of a gun they wouldn't have cursed at them so bad and thrown them away like trash.

And I don't know what undeclared wars we've fought against who over the last 200+ years. They didn't teach us that kind of stuff in school and I don't read history for fun. I don't know very much about all the wars that actually were declared. I only remember having 1 semester of history in high school and it was called Wars of the 20th Century. When I didn't need credits in any particular subject to graduate I chose classes I like, wood shop, metal shop, and art for example, and easy stuff like algebra, geometry, and science classes. Not boring old history or English classes.
""It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency." - George Washington. Letter to Alexander Hamilton, Friday, May 02, 1783

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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2020, 08:45:41 AM »
Maybe if you'd paid attention to history you would have found out it's the least boring, and most important subject you should have studied.
As for throwing away Chautchat's, Those weren't 8 Lebel, they were the 30-06 because they were so much worse than the 8mm. And all those holes and openings allowed just as much crap to fall back out again.
Even John Browning took lessons from the Chauchat.



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