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tombogan03884

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Binary trigger
« on: June 03, 2020, 01:04:30 PM »
In short,
What good is it ?
Is this another pointless development like the Kriss Vector that is no use for anything but full auto, and can't be built full auto ?
Really sounds like a pointless range toy that might get some one killed on the range.

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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2020, 01:20:29 PM »
One of the trigger pins on my AR came loose and it just so happened to create a binary trigger.  Once I realized what happened and that it wasn't a safety problem, I played with it for a mag or two.

First it was fun.  Second it makes double tap just, well automatic.  If allowed for competition it would be a definite plus.   Not sure every real life tactical situation would call for this level of firepower.
Will work for ammo
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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2020, 01:59:10 PM »
Probably fun......As well as a great ammo waster.
A late friend of mine had one of the early versions on a Mini-14 years ago. It had some bugs, but when it ran right it was fun to shoot. Ammo was cheaper then too.
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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2020, 04:30:58 PM »
Mini 30,
What the M 14 could have been if US Ordinance weren't run by Camp Perry Peckerheads.   ;D

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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2020, 07:03:06 PM »
Mini 30,
What the M 14 could have been if US Ordinance weren't run by Camp Perry Peckerheads.   ;D

If that were the case, wouldn’t we have the FAL in .280 British?

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Re: Binary trigger
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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2020, 09:53:06 PM »
Yesss, and your point is ?     ;D
All of NATO would have had FAL's AND MAG's in 280 Brit.    ;D
Up yours HK.   ;D

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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2020, 12:26:23 AM »
If that were the case, wouldn’t we have the FAL in .280 British?

If we adopted the .280 British (7mm NATO) after WWII, maybe we would still have it, instead of going from .30-06 to 7.62mm NATO, then all the way down to 5.56mm, then back up to 6.8mm. Oh look, the U.S. military's shiny new, latest and greatest cartridge is 0.007" smaller than the .280 British and it's performance is absolutely magical if you listen to what they're saying about it. Too bad the .280 British itself just wasn't good enough, but somehow the 5.56mm poodle shooter was good enough for over half a century - until it wasn't and they needed something closer to .280 caliber.
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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2020, 08:30:30 AM »
It's possible that had we gone with the British round we would only now be phasing out the M - 14.
The .280 was controllable in full auto, unlike 308, but has better barrier penetration and payload for things like tracer, unlike .223
Years ago I had a 1895 Chilean Mauser in 7 X 57. I've been impressed with 7mm ever since   ;D

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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2020, 08:12:02 AM »
A lot of U.S. soldiers were impressed with the 7mm since they faced the Mauser 1893 during the Spanish–American War.
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Re: Binary trigger
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2020, 09:30:12 AM »
Paul Mauser considered it the best cartridge he ever designed .

 

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