Author Topic: Sad Departure of Jim Scoutten  (Read 3327 times)

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Re: Sad Departure of Jim Scoutten
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2023, 09:01:17 PM »
Tonight's episode of Shooting USA acknowledged Jim's death.  At the end John closed with "As Jim always said ...".  This was followed with a photo of Jim and 1945-2023.
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Re: Sad Departure of Jim Scoutten
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2023, 12:17:59 PM »
It's sad when personal era's of someone you respect are over. 

BTW, Mr. Bane, how is your health?  You better not have any plans to punch out anytime soon.
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Re: Sad Departure of Jim Scoutten
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2023, 11:42:00 PM »
I wasn't aware of the passing of Jim Scoutten, or the differences of opinion between Michael Bane and the Scouttens. I've never had The Outdoor Channel or any related type of channels, and I've only seen brief videos of Michael's online. I've seen Jim Scoutten online too.
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Re: Sad Departure of Jim Scoutten
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2023, 01:17:01 AM »
What, "differences of opinion"?

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Re: Sad Departure of Jim Scoutten
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2023, 01:53:42 AM »
What, "differences of opinion"?

Yeah. Inquiring minds want to know.
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Re: Sad Departure of Jim Scoutten
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Re: Sad Departure of Jim Scoutten
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2023, 07:05:14 PM »
Yeah. Inquiring minds want to know.

Their way of reporting and evaluating were opposites.  Jim was a mainstream media guy, and Michael is as independent as possible.
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Re: Sad Departure of Jim Scoutten
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2023, 02:51:20 PM »
Their way of reporting and evaluating were opposites.  Jim was a mainstream media guy, and Michael is as independent as possible.

As in:

Jim: This XYZ pistol has excellent sights, great grip angle and a trigger.

Michael: This XYZ pistol has excellent sights. feels good in the hands and the trigger sucks.
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Re: Sad Departure of Jim Scoutten
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2023, 05:01:09 PM »
Michael is one of the "grey beards" of the sport.  He was in on or created much of the popular shooting sports.  He is the ultimate knowledgeable insider whereas insofaras I know Mr. Scoutten was more of an enthusiast reporter...???...??? 

Mr. Scoutten's son is, from my observation, more of an actual participant than his dad was.  He seemed to develop a better insight into the sport after his participation in the sport.
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Re: Sad Departure of Jim Scoutten
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2023, 06:17:30 PM »
As in:

Jim: This XYZ pistol has excellent sights, great grip angle and a trigger.

Michael: This XYZ pistol has excellent sights. feels good in the hands and the trigger sucks.

Jim (Thought bubble): How can I phrase this press release given to me to sound like it is my independent evaluation.

Michael (Thought bubble with a barely filtered mouth): How do I communicate that the bells and whistles are hiding these flaws without offending too many experts.

There were some other differences on how production should be done that was a real rub for Michael, but I will leave that to a discussion concerning how John handles the company moving forward.
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Re: Sad Departure of Jim Scoutten
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2023, 08:49:02 AM »
I miss the velvet voice of Jim.  John I’ve met and observed.  He’s a hard worker.  Not only has he made it a point to compete in matches, but has obtained RO status for USPSA and last year spent a weekend working the Nationals as RO on one bay. Though he doesn’t know my name, he always smiles and says hi. When is shot on a squad following his, he’d share strategies with me as we changed bays.
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